Freezing Time of Water: What Factors Determine it?

In summary, determining the time it takes for water to freeze from a certain temperature depends on various parameters such as the starting temperature, the temperature it is exposed to, and the surface area. It can be a simple or complicated problem depending on the information provided. There has been a lot of research done on this topic, particularly in areas such as thermal storage and refrigeration. The basic parameters to consider are the mass of water, starting temperature, specific heat capacity, latent heat of state change, and the cooling power of the refrigerator. However, there are also other factors to consider, such as thermal contact and the efficiency of the refrigerator. Ultimately, the accuracy of the answer will depend on the specific experiment being conducted.
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Is there a formula or method for determining the time it takes for water to freeze from a certain temperature? What parameters would this rely on?
 
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I imagine it would depend mostly on the temperature it starts from, the temperature it is exposed to (of your freezer or whatever) and probably the surface area (and perhaps what the surface area is exposed to).

I don't know a formula, and there's probably more subtle/complicated things that effect it, but I would guess that the parameters I mentioned would likely be the most important.
 
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It can be easy or complicated depending on the provided information.
 
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I'm just wondering generally (as in, a real life application, not textbook problem).
If there hasn't been any work on it, I'll reserve it to study in high school :wink:
 
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Just make sure you don't use distilled water. I had unfrozen water at 10°F the other day.
 
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darksyesider said:
I'm just wondering generally (as in, a real life application, not textbook problem).
If there hasn't been any work on it, I'll reserve it to study in high school :wink:
It is safe to say that millions of hours of work have been done on this problem and it is understood exquisitely well -- which doesn't necessarily make it simple, depending on the specific problem.

One example is thermal storage in an air conditioning system. It is cheaper to make "cold" at night due to electricity prices, so large corporations will store "cold" for use during the day. One good way to store it is with ice. So if you have a certain amount of water (often contained in plastic balls), with an anti-freeze solution circulating around it, and a chiller of a certain capacity, it is very easy to calculate how long it will take to freeze all of it.

Say, for example, you have 1 million liters of ice storage capacity and a chiller with an output of 5 MW. If the ice balls start as liquid at 20 C...

Specific heat of water: 1.86 J/g
Latent heat of fusion: 334 J/g

To cool from 20C to 0C takes:
1,000,000 L * 1,000 g/L * 20 C / 5,000,000 J/s * 1 J/g-C= 1.11 hrs

Freezing it takes an additional:
1,000,000 L * 1,000 g/L * 334 J/g / 5,000,000 J/s = 18.5 hrs
 
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darksyesider said:
Is there a formula or method for determining the time it takes for water to freeze from a certain temperature? What parameters would this rely on?
This a bit of a 'How longs a piece of string' question as it can be tackled at all sorts of levels. It's basically a very practical problem - think how you can affect the rate that an ice-cream melts, depending on where you keep it.
Are you planning to dunk your water into an already cold place or are you planning to start with a large mass of water and then try to refrigerate it?
The basic parameters are
Mass of water
Starting temperature
Specific heat capacity of the water
Latent heat of state change
Temperature of the place the water is placed - or the 'cooling power' of your refrigerator



Then there will be details like how good the thermal contact is between the water you want to freeze and the cooler fins etc. The heat transfer would be best if you use forced convection (pumped antifreeze as in russ's description, or circulating air as in your freezer at home). Ice will tend to insulate the inside layers of water and slow things up.
The performance (effective cooling rate or 'Power') of your refrigerator will depend on the ambient temperature and the efficiency (often referred to as Coefficient of Performance)

You will need to specify what you had in mind but I can guarantee you will not have enough information to give a very accurate answer - particularly if you are just talking in terms of a jar of water in a freezer. Give us a clue about your thought experiment.
 

1. What is the freezing point of water?

The freezing point of water is 0 degrees Celsius or 32 degrees Fahrenheit. This is the temperature at which water changes from a liquid to a solid state.

2. What factors affect the freezing time of water?

There are several factors that can affect the freezing time of water, including temperature, volume, impurities, and agitation. Higher temperatures and larger volumes of water will generally result in longer freezing times, while impurities and agitation can speed up the process.

3. How does altitude impact the freezing time of water?

At higher altitudes, the air pressure is lower, which means water will boil at a lower temperature. This also affects the freezing point of water, causing it to freeze at a lower temperature and therefore take longer to freeze.

4. Can the shape of the container impact the freezing time of water?

Yes, the shape of the container can affect the freezing time of water. A wider and shallower container will freeze faster than a taller and narrower one. This is because a wider surface area allows for more heat to escape, speeding up the freezing process.

5. Does adding salt to water affect its freezing time?

Yes, adding salt to water can significantly decrease its freezing time. This is because the salt lowers the freezing point of water, meaning it will need to reach a lower temperature to freeze. This is why salt is often used to de-ice roads during the winter.

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