Functional Equation: A, B, C Answers

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In summary, we have a function \(f:\mathbb{N} \rightarrow \mathbb{N}\) that satisfies \(f(ab)=f(a)+f(b)\) for coprime natural numbers \(a\) and \(b\), and \(f(c+d)=f(c)+f(d)\) for all prime numbers \(c\) and \(d\). From this, we can conclude that \(f(1)=0\) and \(f(p)=0\) for every prime number \(p\). However, this may lead to a contradiction and there may be a missing condition in the statement of the question.
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Since \(1\) is coprime to every natural \(f(1)=0\).

Also since for any prime \(c>2\) we have \(f(2c)=f(2)+f(c)\) and \(f(2c)=f(c+c)=f(c)+f(c)\) we conclude that \(f(c)=f(2)\), which is sufficient to allow us to answer (a), (b) and (c) in terms of \(f(2)\).

At present I don't see any means of evaluating \(f(2)\).CB
 
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Since \(1\) is coprime to every natural \(f(1)=0\).

Also since for any prime \(c>2\) we have \(f(2c)=f(2)+f(c)\) and \(f(2c)=f(c+c)=f(c)+f(c)\) we conclude that \(f(c)=f(2)\), which is sufficient to allow us to answer (a), (b) and (c) in terms of \(f(2)\).

CB
But that leads to something strange if you put $c=2$ and $d=3$, because it then follows that $f(2) = f(5) = f(2+3) = f(2) + f(3) = 2f(2).$ Thus $f(2)=0$ and hence $f(p)=0$ for every prime $p.$
 
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Opalg said:
But that leads to something strange if you put $c=2$ and $d=3$, because it then follows that $f(2) = f(5) = f(2+3) = f(2) + f(3) = 2f(2).$ Thus $f(2)=0$ and hence $f(p)=0$ for every prime $p.$

If that does not entail a contradiction then that gives us a full solution, including undefined for (b), it also answers the implied question I added to my post between you starting to reply and my seeing your reply :) . Alternativly there is a condition missing from the statement of the question.

CB
 
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I would approach this functional equation by first examining its properties and implications. The equation states that for any two coprime natural numbers a and b, the function f will satisfy the equation f(ab) = f(a) + f(b). This means that the function is multiplicative, as the product of two numbers is equal to the sum of their individual values under the function.

Furthermore, the equation also states that for any two prime numbers c and d, the function will satisfy the equation f(c+d) = f(c) + f(d). This tells us that the function is also additive, as the sum of two prime numbers will have the same value under the function as the sum of their individual values.

Using these properties, we can now answer the three questions posed in the content.

(a) The value of f(1) + f(2) + f(3) can be determined by substituting in the values of a and b as 1 and 2, respectively. This gives us f(1*2) = f(1) + f(2), which simplifies to f(2) = f(1) + f(2). Since f(1) is equal to 0 (as 1 is coprime with all natural numbers), we can conclude that f(2) = f(2) + 0, and therefore f(1) + f(2) + f(3) = f(2) + f(3) = 2f(2). However, we cannot determine the exact value of f(2) without more information about the function f.

(b) The expression (f(5) + f(7))/f(4) can be simplified using the multiplicative property of the function. We know that f(5*7) = f(5) + f(7), and f(4) = f(2*2) = f(2) + f(2). Therefore, (f(5) + f(7))/f(4) = f(5*7)/f(2*2) = f(5) + f(7)/f(2) + f(2). Again, without more information about the function f, we cannot determine the exact value of this expression.

(c) Finally, we can use the additive property of the function to determine the value of f(9) - f
 

Related to Functional Equation: A, B, C Answers

1. What is a functional equation?

A functional equation is an equation that involves a function or a set of functions. It typically describes the relationship between the input and output of a function, and can be used to solve for unknown variables.

2. What are some common types of functional equations?

Some common types of functional equations include linear, quadratic, polynomial, exponential, logarithmic, and trigonometric equations.

3. How do you solve a functional equation?

The method for solving a functional equation depends on the type of equation. In general, you can solve a functional equation by manipulating the equation to isolate the unknown function and then substituting in known values to solve for the unknown variable.

4. How are functional equations used in science?

Functional equations are used in various fields of science, including physics, chemistry, and biology. They can be used to model real-world phenomena and make predictions about the behavior of systems.

5. Are there any real-world applications of functional equations?

Yes, functional equations have numerous real-world applications, such as in economics, engineering, and computer science. They can be used to optimize systems, analyze data, and make predictions.

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