Gravitational Lock in GR: Earth-Venus Positioning

In summary, the conversation discusses the concept of tidal locking between two celestial bodies, specifically Earth and Venus. Tidal locking refers to when two bodies are gravitationally bound and one body always shows the same face to the other due to tidal forces. The conversation also mentions the impact of relativity on this phenomenon and whether it affects the gravitational force between the two bodies. It is noted that while tidal locking can occur due to coincidence, it can also be influenced by tidal forces. However, the relativistic corrections are likely negligible for actual planets.
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When 2 bodies are locked over relatively large distances (like locked Earth and Venus), do they lock, naively speaking, to the position where another's body is seen (delay distance/c is taken into account) or to the position where other body is actually at the moment (because of Relativity of simultaneity we have to chose frame here, but there is no problem for slowly moving bodies like Earth and Venus - it could be their center of mass, or Sun, there is a little difference)
 
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What does "like locked Earth and Venus" mean? How are Earth or Venus "locked" in any way? They both orbit the sun.
 
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tidal_locking

Venus's 583.92-day interval between successive close approaches to Earth is equal to 5.001444 Venusian solar days, making approximately the same face visible from Earth at each close approach
 
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A pure coincidence today. It has been different in the past, it will be different again in the future.
Also, the rotation of planets with a nearly perfect rotational symmetry has no influence on the gravitational force between them.
 
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As mfb points out, some cases of celestial bodies being "locked" in this sense is a pure coincidence. However, sometimes it's not a coincidence. For example, the moon always shows the same face to the Earth because of tidal forces.

So you're asking how this notion of "locking", which is well understood in Newtonian physics, is modified by relativity. My guess would be that the relativistic corrections are completely insignificant for any actual planets.
 
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1. What is gravitational lock in GR: Earth-Venus positioning?

Gravitational lock, also known as tidal locking, is a phenomenon where two celestial bodies are tidally locked in a way that one body's rotation is synchronized with its orbital period around the other body. In the context of Earth-Venus positioning, it refers to the gravitational interaction between the two planets that results in Venus always showing the same side towards Earth.

2. How does gravitational lock occur between Earth and Venus?

Gravitational lock between Earth and Venus occurs due to the gravitational force between the two planets. As Venus orbits around Earth, the gravitational force from Earth pulls on Venus, causing its rotation to slow down. This eventually leads to Venus being tidally locked with Earth, with one side of the planet always facing Earth.

3. What are the effects of gravitational lock on the Earth-Venus system?

The main effect of gravitational lock on the Earth-Venus system is the synchronization of their rotation and orbital periods. This means that Venus will always show the same side towards Earth, and their positions relative to each other will remain relatively constant. Additionally, this phenomenon can also cause tidal bulges and affect the rotational stability of both planets.

4. How does gravitational lock affect the observation of Venus from Earth?

Since Venus is always showing the same side towards Earth due to gravitational lock, it can be challenging to observe different areas of the planet's surface. This can make it difficult for scientists to study changes in Venus' atmosphere or geological features that may be present on the side facing away from Earth.

5. Is gravitational lock a common phenomenon in the universe?

Yes, gravitational lock is a common phenomenon in the universe, particularly among celestial bodies that are in close proximity to each other. Some examples include the Moon and Earth, Pluto and its moon Charon, and many exoplanets and their host stars. It is estimated that about half of the moons in our solar system are tidally locked to their parent planet.

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