How do I convert from this mod number to a regular number?

In summary, SigmaS was trying to solve $(\frac{1}{4900})^{100}$ and found that $4900 \equiv 84 \ (\text {mod 112})$. They then tried to convert the result to a regular number using modular arithmetic, but were unsure if the result was correct. They also asked for alternative methods to solve the original problem without using modular arithmetic. Another user suggested using logarithms to solve the problem.
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So I was working on solving $(\frac{1}{4900})^{100}$, and I figured the only way to do this neatly is through modular arithmetic.

I found that $4900 \equiv 84 \ (\text {mod 112})$, so I concluded $$\frac{1^{100}}{84^{10}\times84^{10} \ (\text{mod 112})}$$

Which should equal $$\frac{1}{3.06\times10^{38} \ (\text{mod 112})}$$

Now, this is still in mod form. How do I convert that value to a regular number, by mostly hand? When I tried converting it with the equation $n=qm+r$ where n is the number we wish to convert to, q is our quotient, m is the mod we're using, and r is the remainder; solving for n I got 84, but that doesn't sound right at all.
 
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Hi SigmaS,

What are you 'solving' exactly?
Are you trying to calculate $(4900^{-1})^{100}\pmod{112}$?
Or something else? If something else, where is the $112$ coming from?
 
  • #3
Klaas van Aarsen said:
Hi SigmaS,

What are you 'solving' exactly?
Are you trying to calculate $(4900^{-1})^{100}\pmod{112}$?
Or something else? If something else, where is the $112$ coming from?

The 112 was just arbitrarily determined. I wanted to make $4900^{100}$ easy to calculate by hand. And I'm just trying to solve the probability of the problem, but expressed in much simpler terms.

if there's a better way to solve the original problem without modular arithmetic, then that would be great
 
  • #4
How about:
$$4900^{100}\approx (\frac 12\cdot 10^4)^{100}=\frac 1{(2^{10})^{10}}\cdot 10^{400}
=\frac 1{(1024)^{10}}\cdot 10^{400}\approx \frac 1{10^{30}}\cdot 10^{400}=1\cdot10^{370}$$
? (Wondering)
 
  • #5
Sixty years ago, this would have been an easy exercise in logarithms. $\log49 \approx 1.690196$, so $\log4900 \approx 3.690196$, and $\log(4900^{100}) \approx 369.0196$. Now take the antilog, to get $4900^{100}\approx 1.046\times 10^{369}.$
 

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