How do you observe the position of an electron?

In summary, an electron observed with x-rays is likely to be kicked out of its orbital, with the x-ray photon velocity, speed of electron at impact, and velocity of electron at detection all contributing to the uncertainty of the position.
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How do you "observe" the position of an electron?

Do you use x-rays?

If so, what happens when you hit the orbital of a given atom with x-rays? Will it just accelerate the electron(s) out of the orbital? Also, how can you then infer the position the electron had initially occupied? Do you just have detectors set around the bombarded atom? Since you know everything about your fired x-ray (intensity, wavelength etc.), you can solve for the position at impact? EDIT: You probably can't, because which detector is hit by the electron depends on the velocity and position of the electron at impact (neither of which you know). EDIT2: But if you know the temperature of the atom, then do you not know at what velocity the kicked-out electron moves? EDIT3: You only know speed but not the actually direction of motion?

Then, when this experiment was repeated a lot of times, the probability density functions were established?
 
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X-ray is just one of the solutions.
You may focus your X-ray on a very small area. So if you notice the electron kicked out - you are sure it got kicked from the focus point.

You may also build pretty small detector to catch electrons. Actually, such detector may be not much bigger than single molecule.

If you don't need such accuracy - watch TV (old-fashioned, CRT, not a flat one) As the electron hits the screen it flashes.
 
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xts said:
X-ray is just one of the solutions.
You may focus your X-ray on a very small area.

With current technology, at what resolution can we focus an xray beam (in units of a hydrogen atom diameter, say)?

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So if you notice the electron kicked out - you are sure it got kicked from the focus point.

But you don't know what the velocity of the electron was. You might know speed but not velocity. Is it not like Billiard balls? Does the velocity of the electron not matter (e.g., if the xray photon [the cue] hit the electron [8-ball], does the velocity of the 8-ball not matter at impact?
EDIT: Nevermind, you're right. You do not measure the final electron velocity or even which detector was hit - just the fact that is was kicked out, and the knowledge of which region within the orbital you beamed away.

EDIT2: What if you did measure terminal velocity (at detection) and terminal detector position? We know xray photon velocity, speed of electron at impact (from room temperature), velocity of electron at detection, detector position that's being hit by the electron - we can solve for velocity at collision. Also, from your inference we can determine position simultaneously. Therefore, I claim that the uncertainty principle is bogus. Where is my mistake?
 
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you know it only with a degree of error, the smaller that error for velocity the greater the error for its exact position. Also you seem to be inferring that we can predict one thing from the result another, but we cant, not with certainty.
 

Related to How do you observe the position of an electron?

1. How do you observe the position of an electron?

To observe the position of an electron, you can use specialized equipment such as an electron microscope or a scanning tunneling microscope. These instruments use beams of electrons to create an image of the electron's position.

2. Can you observe the position of an electron without specialized equipment?

No, it is not possible to observe the position of an electron without specialized equipment. Electrons are very small and move very quickly, making them difficult to observe with the naked eye or conventional microscopes.

3. Why is it important to observe the position of an electron?

Observing the position of an electron is important in understanding the behavior and properties of atoms and molecules. It can also provide insight into the structure of materials and how they interact with each other.

4. What other methods can be used to observe the position of an electron?

In addition to using specialized equipment, techniques such as X-ray crystallography and electron diffraction can be used to indirectly observe the position of electrons. These methods are often used in chemistry and materials science.

5. Is it possible to observe the position of an electron with 100% accuracy?

No, it is not possible to observe the position of an electron with 100% accuracy due to the Heisenberg uncertainty principle. This principle states that it is impossible to know both the exact position and momentum of a particle at the same time.

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