MHB How many birds are at the top and bottom of the tree?

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The discussion revolves around a mathematical problem involving birds at the top and bottom of a tree. It establishes two conditions: if one bird moves up, the number of birds at the top becomes twice that at the bottom, and if one bird moves down, the numbers equalize. Participants work through equations to find the values of birds at each position, ultimately concluding that there are 7 birds at the top and 5 at the bottom. The problem-solving process emphasizes the importance of setting up the correct equations to derive the solution. The final answer highlights the relationship between the two groups of birds based on their movements.
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Some birds are at the top of the tree while the others are at the botton, if one bird goes up, the birds of the top of the tree will be twice as the below of the tree while if one bird comes down the number of the birds at the top of the tree and below will be the same. How many birds are at the top and below of the tree?
 
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RTCNTC said:
Some birds are at the top of the tree while the others are at the botton, if one bird goes up, the birds of the top of the tree will be twice as the below of the tree while if one bird comes down the number of the birds at the top of the tree and below will be thesame. How many birds are at the top and below of the tree?

I'll do most of it for you. You show us the rest.

T = # of birds at the Top of the Tree
B = # of birds at the Bottom of the Tree

Okay, you're almost done! Go!
 
tkhunny said:
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I'll do most of it for you. You show us the rest.

T = # of birds at the Top of the Tree
B = # of birds at the Bottom of the Tree

Okay, you're almost done! Go!

T = birds on top of tree

B = birds at the base of the tree

T = 2B
T - 1 = B

2B - 1 = B

2B - B = 1

B = 1

T = 2(1) or 2

Wrong, of course.
 
"Some birds are at the top of the tree while the others are at the bottom"

T = # of birds at the top
B = # of birds st the bottom

"if one bird goes up, the birds of the top of the tree will be twice as the below of the tree"

T + 1 = 2(B - 1)

"if one bird comes down the number of the birds at the top of the tree and below will be the same"

T - 1 = B + 1

What do you get when you solve the system?
 
RTCNTC said:
Wrong, of course.
We WILL have to work on that attitude. Take a deep breath. You CAN do it.
 
MarkFL said:
"Some birds are at the top of the tree while the others are at the bottom"

T = # of birds at the top
B = # of birds st the bottom

"if one bird goes up, the birds of the top of the tree will be twice as the below of the tree"

T + 1 = 2(B - 1)

"if one bird comes down the number of the birds at the top of the tree and below will be the same"

T - 1 = B + 1

What do you get when you solve the system?

Very good. I can take it from here.
 
MarkFL said:
"Some birds are at the top of the tree while the others are at the bottom"

T = # of birds at the top
B = # of birds st the bottom

"if one bird goes up, the birds of the top of the tree will be twice as the below of the tree"

T + 1 = 2(B - 1)

"if one bird comes down the number of the birds at the top of the tree and below will be the same"

T - 1 = B + 1

What do you get when you solve the system?

T = birds currently at top
B = birds currently at bottom

2(B-1) = T+1
T-1 = B+1
T = B +2
2B -2 = B +2 +1
B = 5
T = 7
 
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