How to determine the max load capcity of a steel square tube

In summary, to determine the maximum load capacity for an A36 steel square tube with dimensions 4in x 4in x .1875in and length of 36in, we first need to determine the type of loading. For point load at the center with rigidly secured ends, the worst case scenario is when the top surface is punched through or collapses. If the load is applied to only one upper edge, a dent may form and cause a similar failure. If the load is distributed evenly over the top surface, the maximum load capacity will be different. In this case, with a sawhorse setup and even distribution of weight, the load will be applied evenly to the entire top face. Using the formula for allowable uniform load,
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A square tube beam, 4in x 4in x .1875in thick.
Length= 36in
Cross sectional Area= 2.859in^2
A36 steel

How do you determine its max load capacity?
 

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Max load capacity for what type of loading? Point load at the center when the ends are rigidly secured? Distributed load over the length of the beam when one end is fixed and the other is cantilevered? Bearing strength? Tensile Strength?
 
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Travis_King said:
Max load capacity for what type of loading? Point load at the center when the ends are rigidly secured? Distributed load over the length of the beam when one end is fixed and the other is cantilevered? Bearing strength? Tensile Strength?

Its a sawhorse type of setup. with each of the legs secured to the floor.
 
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1. The worst case situation will be when a load is applied to the point at the centre of the upper surface of the beam. The top surface will be punched through, or will collapse and pull in the side walls. As the upper tube surface approaches the lower surface, the tube will bend because separation of the top, (compression), and the bottom, (tension), faces has been significantly reduced.

2. The next worst situation will be when a point load is applied to only one upper edge, near the middle of the tube. A dent in the edge will form. The same sort of failure as case 1 will then occur, as the loaded sidewall bends along its midline and so reduces the top to bottom separation.

3. The third situation will be when the load is shared by both sidewalls, on a line across the top of the beam. That will carry twice the load of 2, except that any imbalance will reduce it back to case 2.

4. If the load is distributed evenly over the entire top surface then that is a different situation again.

So how might you apply your loading?
 
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Baluncore said:
1. The worst case situation will be when a load is applied to the point at the centre of the upper surface of the beam. The top surface will be punched through, or will collapse and pull in the side walls. As the upper tube surface approaches the lower surface, the tube will bend because separation of the top, (compression), and the bottom, (tension), faces has been significantly reduced.

2. The next worst situation will be when a point load is applied to only one upper edge, near the middle of the tube. A dent in the edge will form. The same sort of failure as case 1 will then occur, as the loaded sidewall bends along its midline and so reduces the top to bottom separation.

3. The third situation will be when the load is shared by both sidewalls, on a line across the top of the beam. That will carry twice the load of 2, except that any imbalance will reduce it back to case 2.

4. If the load is distributed evenly over the entire top surface then that is a different situation again.

So how might you apply your loading?

the load will be applied evenly to the face that is marked green in the picture. (the entire top face)
 
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Determining the allowable uniform load that can be applied to a beam

Determining the allowable uniform load that can be applied to an A36, HSS 4x4x3/16 steel square tube. Theres a 30,000lb weight being applied evenly across the top face in a downward direction. The square tube is supported equally at both ends.

I just wanted to know if i did this correctly. Iv done problems like this before but never that involved a square tube. I didnt know if i could still apply the same method as for an I-beam or if there was a compltelty different way it needed to be done. Any help would be awesome!

A=2.859in^2
S=3.45in^3
d=4in
t= .375in
wt=9.42lb/ft

M=Sσ
=(3.45in^3)(24,000lb/in^2) = 82,000lb*in=6,900lb*ft

w=M8/L^2
=(8)(6,900ft*lb)/(3ft)^2 = 6133.3lb/ft

Vmax=(wL/2)+(P/2)
=[(9.42lb/ft)(3ft)/(2)]+(30,000lb)/(2) = 15,015.13lb

τavg= Vmax/dt
=(15,014.13lb)/(4in)(.375in) = 10009.42 lb/in^2

Since 10009.42<14000, therefore Wallow = 6133.3lb/ft
 

1. What is the max load capacity of a steel square tube?

The max load capacity of a steel square tube depends on several factors such as the dimensions of the tube, the type of steel used, and the method of loading. It is recommended to consult with a structural engineer or refer to industry-standard tables to accurately determine the max load capacity for a specific steel square tube.

2. How do you calculate the max load capacity of a steel square tube?

The max load capacity of a steel square tube can be calculated by considering the tube's cross-sectional area, moment of inertia, and yield strength. These values can be found in standard engineering tables or can be calculated using appropriate equations. Again, it is recommended to consult with a structural engineer for accurate calculations.

3. Can the max load capacity of a steel square tube be increased?

Yes, the max load capacity of a steel square tube can be increased by using a higher grade of steel, increasing the tube's dimensions, or utilizing additional support structures. However, any changes should be carefully evaluated by a structural engineer to ensure the safety and integrity of the structure.

4. Are there any safety factors to consider when determining the max load capacity of a steel square tube?

Yes, it is important to consider safety factors when determining the max load capacity of a steel square tube. These factors take into account potential variations in the material properties, loading conditions, and potential errors in calculations. The industry standard safety factor for structural materials is typically 2:1, meaning the max load capacity should be no more than half of the calculated value.

5. Can the max load capacity of a steel square tube be exceeded?

No, the max load capacity of a steel square tube should never be exceeded as it can result in structural failure and potential harm to people or property. The max load capacity is determined based on the tube's ability to safely support the anticipated load, and exceeding it can compromise the structural integrity of the tube and the overall structure.

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