How to integrate the electric field of the square sheet

In summary: If you use this substitution,du/√(2u+z2) can be replaced by 'dt' and u+z2=(t2+z2)/2.So, you'll simply get it as ∫2dt/(t2+z2) which is (2/z)tan-1(t/z).You get your answer in just two steps.
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how to integrate the electric field of the square sheet( see the pink circle below)
it looks hard for me

thank you very much
 

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Hint: Try substitution method ##2u+z^2=t##. You might still need one more substitution, but I will not comment any further before you show your own work.
 
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Use the substitution
√(2u+z2)=t.
 
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Yes you can also do that, and may be in the third line you can use the fact that the derivative of ##\sec x## is ##\sec x \tan x##. But your way is kind of longer than necessary.
 
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blue_leaf77 said:
Yes you can also do that, and may be in the third line you can use the fact that the derivative of ##\sec x## is ##\sec x \tan x##. But your way is kind of longer than necessary.
Did i make mistake in my calculation?
 

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garylau said:
Did i make mistake in my calculation?
Looks good. Now you only need to do the last integral and change back to the original variable ##u## and plug in the integral limits.
 
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cnh1995 said:
Use the substitution
√(2u+z2)=t.
If you use this substitution,
du/√(2u+z2) can be replaced by 'dt' and u+z2=(t2+z2)/2.
So, you'll simply get it as ∫2dt/(t2+z2) which is (2/z)tan-1(t/z).
You get your answer in just two steps.
 
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cnh1995 said:
If you use this substitution,
du/√(2u+z2) can be replaced by 'dt' and u+z2=(t2+z2)/2.
So, you'll simply get it as ∫2dt/(t2+z2) which is (2/z)tan-1(t/z).
You get your answer in just two steps.
Oh i see thank you
 
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blue_leaf77 said:
Looks good. Now you only need to do the last integral and change back to the original variable ##u## and plug in the integral limits.
blue_leaf77 said:
Looks good. Now you only need to do the last integral and change back to the original variable ##u## and plug in the integral limits.
i don't know why i do it wrong (is there a minus sign??)
can you help me to check it
thank
 

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I missed one mistake in your work in post #5. In the last line, you should have removed the integral and the integration element. There should only be #\theta## there.
garylau said:
i don't know why i do it wrong (is there a minus sign??)
can you help me to check it
thank
I don't know why you are redoing your work, you are almost there in post #5.
 
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blue_leaf77 said:
I missed one mistake in your work in post #5. In the last line, you should have removed the integral and the integration element. There should only be #\theta## there.

I don't know why you are redoing your work, you are almost there in post #5.

i redo my work by other way

and i found the answer looks different from my answer in post 5(which i successfully do it)
something looks crazy when the answer in my last post looks totally different.
but i cannot find any mistake
 
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blue_leaf77 said:
I missed one mistake in your work in post #5. In the last line, you should have removed the integral and the integration element. There should only be #\theta## there.

I don't know why you are redoing your work, you are almost there in post #5.
yes

i should remove in the integral but i always forget

thank you
 
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cnh1995 said:
If you use this substitution,
du/√(2u+z2) can be replaced by 'dt' and u+z2=(t2+z2)/2.
So, you'll simply get it as ∫2dt/(t2+z2) which is (2/z)tan-1(t/z).
You get your answer in just two steps.
what if i try to integrate it using multiple integration...seems quite tough then...can you help regarding that??
 

Related to How to integrate the electric field of the square sheet

1. How is the electric field of a square sheet calculated?

The electric field of a square sheet can be calculated by dividing the total charge of the sheet by the area of the sheet. This gives the electric field strength at any point on the sheet.

2. What is the direction of the electric field of a square sheet?

The direction of the electric field of a square sheet is perpendicular to the surface of the sheet, pointing away from the sheet if it is positively charged and towards the sheet if it is negatively charged.

3. How does the electric field of a square sheet vary with distance?

The electric field of a square sheet follows an inverse relationship with distance. This means that as the distance from the sheet increases, the electric field strength decreases.

4. How does the electric field of a square sheet differ from a point charge?

The electric field of a square sheet is uniform at all points on the sheet, while the electric field of a point charge decreases as the distance from the point charge increases. Additionally, the direction of the electric field of a square sheet is always perpendicular to the surface, while the direction of the electric field of a point charge depends on the location of the point charge.

5. Can the electric field of a square sheet be integrated to find the potential?

Yes, the electric field of a square sheet can be integrated to find the potential. The potential at any point is equal to the negative integral of the electric field from that point to a reference point.

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