Huygens principle consequence of isotropy

In summary, the conversation discusses the relationship between Huygens principle and the isotropy of space. It is mentioned that the principle can be used for both isotropic and anisotropic space, and that it is primarily based on the idea that every point can be considered as a source of secondary waves. The conversation also touches on the behavior of longitudinal and transverse waves and the question of whether there is a proof for Huygens principle. Ultimately, it is stated that the principle is a successful model and makes sense, making it a reliable tool in understanding wave behavior.
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IS huygens principle a consequence of isotropy of space? According to wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Huygens–Fresnel_principle it is

I don't really understand this : let's say a sound wave , a vibrator pushes the air molecule does this mean that molecule vibrates in all directions? Ofcourse the air molecule's backward vibrations will be canceled by the vibrators forward vibration but will the molecules vibrate in other directions too?
 
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jd12345 said:
IS huygens principle a consequence of isotropy of space? According to wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Huygens–Fresnel_principle it is
Not really: the Huygens principle can equally well be used for anisotropic space. The principle is that every point can be regarded as a source of secondary waves.
I don't really understand this : let's say a sound wave , a vibrator pushes the air molecule does this mean that molecule vibrates in all directions? Ofcourse the air molecule's backward vibrations will be canceled by the vibrators forward vibration but will the molecules vibrate in other directions too?
Good point; it depends on the wavelength if the resulting pressure wave spreads out strongly or not, thus qualitatively similar to light. Note that Huygens primarily modeled light (I think), which is modeled as a transverse wave (oscillating perpendicular to the propagation). Thus your issue doesn't arise with light, but it could be interesting to discuss how much longitudinal waves behave differently.
 
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ok actually my initial doubt was: IS there a proof to huygens principle that every point is regarded as a source of secondary waves? I thought the isotropy of space could explain it but as you say its not necessary
So is there a proof for huygens principle?
 
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jd12345 said:
ok actually my initial doubt was: IS there a proof to huygens principle that every point is regarded as a source of secondary waves? I thought the isotropy of space could explain it but as you say its not necessary
So is there a proof for huygens principle?
It's a successfully working model. And on top of that, it makes sense. What more can you ask for?
 
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Yes, Huygens principle is a consequence of isotropy of space. Isotropy means that the properties of space are the same in all directions. In the case of sound waves, this means that the air molecules will vibrate in all directions, not just back and forth. This is because the air molecules are free to move in any direction, and the vibrations caused by the sound wave will propagate equally in all directions. This is why we can hear sound from any direction, not just from the direction of the source. Huygens principle states that every point on a wavefront can be considered as a source of secondary wavelets, and these secondary wavelets combine to form a new wavefront. This principle is based on the assumption of isotropy, as it allows for the propagation of waves in all directions.
 

1. What is Huygens principle?

Huygens principle, also known as the Huygens-Fresnel principle, is a fundamental concept in optics that describes how light behaves as it travels through a medium. It states that every point on a wavefront can be considered as a source of secondary spherical wavelets, and the sum of these wavelets determines the shape of the new wavefront.

2. What is the consequence of isotropy in relation to Huygens principle?

The consequence of isotropy in relation to Huygens principle is that the secondary wavelets produced at each point on a wavefront will have equal amplitudes in all directions. This means that the new wavefront will be spherical, regardless of the orientation of the original wavefront.

3. How does Huygens principle relate to reflection and refraction?

Huygens principle can be used to explain the laws of reflection and refraction. In the case of reflection, the secondary wavelets produced by each point on the incident wavefront will combine to form a reflected wavefront with the same angle of incidence as the original wavefront. In the case of refraction, the secondary wavelets produced by each point on the incident wavefront will combine to form a refracted wavefront with a different angle of refraction, depending on the properties of the medium it enters.

4. Can Huygens principle be applied to all types of waves?

Yes, Huygens principle can be applied to all types of waves, including sound waves, water waves, and electromagnetic waves. It is a general principle that describes the behavior of waves as they propagate through a medium.

5. What are some practical applications of Huygens principle?

Huygens principle has many practical applications in optics, including the design of lenses, mirrors, and diffraction gratings. It is also used in the study of wave phenomena, such as interference and diffraction, and in the development of imaging techniques, such as holography and microscopy.

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