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Bashyboy
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I know in order for a team to win tug-of-war, the frictional force has to be greater than the force with which the opposing team pulls with; but which friction is it, static or kinetic?
Both sides accelerate at the same rate, because there is a tight rope constraint between them.danmay said:(2) When both sides are sliding, mass resists acceleration. The more massive side will move less in the same amount of time compared to the lighter side; therefore the latter will lose "earlier".
K^2 said:Both sides accelerate at the same rate, because there is a tight rope constraint between them.
Ken G said:But you never have both sides losing, with one side losing "earlier". That just doesn't happen.
Ken G said:Also, I think that in addition to weight, we have to consider strength. If you had a team of five year olds all wearing 200 pound backpacks, that is not going to be a very successful tug-of-war team. K^2 already mentioned that you would have to assume they can pull with a force in excess of their own weight, but that's a rather strong assumption! Most people could not suspend their weight for very long by hanging from a rope with just their hands, their muscles would fatigue quickly. So it might also matter more how long a person can sustain their own weight in a force from their hands on a rope, if the contest isn't deciding immediately by one team being much heavier.
Not if we wish to gain any understanding of how tug-of-wars actually work.danmay said:Can we say it never happens that both sides are sliding?
The many issues that would come up if someone was really trying to devise the best tug-of-war strategy are probably quite complex. Maybe there's a website on it somewhere, there usually is!Something like post #5? Escalating/increasing force in order to maximize what you may have as an advantage from weight-->normal force-->foot friction is important. It's also important to be able to withstand that force in any link through your body from the ground to the rope.
Ken G said:Yeah, my point exactly-- nothing about that video resembles an actual tug-of-war in the least way! If you want to talk about what is going on in that video, that's a very different issue from a tug-of-war competition, if you've ever seen one. Maybe MIT students haven't seen one either, but I think it is just a joke.
The frictional force between the ground and the players' feet plays a crucial role in tug-of-war. It provides the necessary grip and traction for the players to exert force and pull the rope in their direction.
No, there are other factors such as the strength and coordination of the team, the weight of the rope, and the strategy used that can also influence the outcome of the game.
The frictional force can be increased by wearing shoes with good traction or by using specialized gloves to provide a better grip on the rope. Additionally, teams can also try to dig their feet deeper into the ground to increase the frictional force.
Yes, if the frictional force is too high, it can cause players to lose their balance and slip, which can negatively impact their performance. Therefore, it is important to find a balance and not rely solely on the frictional force for winning.
The surface on which the game is played can greatly impact the frictional force. A surface with more texture and roughness, such as grass or gravel, can provide more friction and increase a team's chances of winning compared to a smooth surface like pavement or gym floor.