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Hello,
I arrived here following links to "heat exchange".
I've got a small (200amp) tig welder and would like to move up to a water cooled torch. I'm building my own cooler in my workshop. I'm challenging myself to fit a cooler into the smallest package possible, the only limits being my pocketbook and lack of formal knowledge of thermodynamics.
I've sourced a very compact 8x4 inch 115vac vane pump. I've breadboarded circuits for flow and temp sensing/display. I've got the plumbing down. I have basic dimensions in mind. System needs to circulate coolant at approx 1 l/min and 50 psi (20psi working/50psi design pressure). All wetted parts must be electrochemically compatible.
Welding coolers have typically made use of finned tube "condenser" type exchangers in order to handle system pressures exceeding 60psi. Below is a typical setup. The exchanger (no.4) is approx 12x12x2 inch.
This design has not seen much change since the '40s. The pressure consideration can be sidestepped by placing the radiator before the pump, and some designs do just this. There is quite a bit of water mass employed in heat dissipation in these as well, with reservoirs of from 4 to 15 gallons. Some coolers use only water mass in fact. Heat dissip is usually from about 8000 to 16000 btu/hr.
I'd like to see how small I can make a heat exchanger for my shop that can manage 8000 btu/hr. Maybe shoebox sized, with a minimum of coolant reservoir space, perhaps one or two liters. I've looked at peltier devices, finned extrusions (maybe make the entire chassis an exchanger), 'stacked tube' type of radiators for cpu cooling in computers, and automotive heater cores.
If you were going to try to dissipate 8000 btu of water (approx 60 to 70C) at 1 l/min (typically a VERY low flow for most exchange calculations) in a chassis approx the size of a shoebox, what devices would you be looking at? (without resorting to NASA grade componentry).
Thanks so much for any suggestions.
I arrived here following links to "heat exchange".
I've got a small (200amp) tig welder and would like to move up to a water cooled torch. I'm building my own cooler in my workshop. I'm challenging myself to fit a cooler into the smallest package possible, the only limits being my pocketbook and lack of formal knowledge of thermodynamics.
I've sourced a very compact 8x4 inch 115vac vane pump. I've breadboarded circuits for flow and temp sensing/display. I've got the plumbing down. I have basic dimensions in mind. System needs to circulate coolant at approx 1 l/min and 50 psi (20psi working/50psi design pressure). All wetted parts must be electrochemically compatible.
Welding coolers have typically made use of finned tube "condenser" type exchangers in order to handle system pressures exceeding 60psi. Below is a typical setup. The exchanger (no.4) is approx 12x12x2 inch.
This design has not seen much change since the '40s. The pressure consideration can be sidestepped by placing the radiator before the pump, and some designs do just this. There is quite a bit of water mass employed in heat dissipation in these as well, with reservoirs of from 4 to 15 gallons. Some coolers use only water mass in fact. Heat dissip is usually from about 8000 to 16000 btu/hr.
I'd like to see how small I can make a heat exchanger for my shop that can manage 8000 btu/hr. Maybe shoebox sized, with a minimum of coolant reservoir space, perhaps one or two liters. I've looked at peltier devices, finned extrusions (maybe make the entire chassis an exchanger), 'stacked tube' type of radiators for cpu cooling in computers, and automotive heater cores.
If you were going to try to dissipate 8000 btu of water (approx 60 to 70C) at 1 l/min (typically a VERY low flow for most exchange calculations) in a chassis approx the size of a shoebox, what devices would you be looking at? (without resorting to NASA grade componentry).
Thanks so much for any suggestions.