Impossible to lift the identity map on the circle

In summary, the equation e * L = ##Id_{S^1}## means that there is a continuous choice of angle function on the circle, but it cannot exist because any choice of angle function would have to change by 2*pi as one goes around the circle, and thus could not be continuous on the whole circle.
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Suppose that L: ##S^1## ---> ##R## is a lift of the identity map of ##S^1##, where e is the covering map from ##R## to ##S^1##, where ##R## is the real numbers and ##S^1## is the circle.

Then the equation e * L = ##Id_{S^1}## (where * is composition) means that 2*pi*L is a continuous choice of angle function on the circle. it is intuitively evident that this cannot exist, because any choice of angle function would have to change by 2*pi as one goes around the circle, and thus could not be continuous on the whole circle.How does the angle function changing by 2*pi as one goes around the circle imply that it could not be continuous on the whole circle?
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Suppose that L: ##S^1## ---> ##R## is a lift of the identity map of ##S^1##, where e is the covering map from ##R## to ##S^1##, where ##R## is the real numbers and ##S^1## is the circle.

Then the equation e * L = ##Id_{S^1}## (where * is composition) means that 2*pi*L is a continuous choice of angle function on the circle. it is intuitively evident that this cannot exist, because any choice of angle function would have to change by 2*pi as one goes around the circle, and thus could not be continuous on the whole circle.How does the angle function changing by 2*pi as one goes around the circle imply that it could not be continuous on the whole circle?
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You need to have a topology defined on ##S^1 ## to be able to talk about continuity. Are you seeing ##S^1## as a metric space with the chordal? Subspace? etc. metric?
 
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Rather than using angles, I find it easier to approach the proof as follows:

Since ##e\circ L## is an injection, ##L## must be too. Therefore ##L## is a bijection from ##S^1## to I am ##L\subset \mathbb R##.

Since ##e\circ L=Id_{S^1}##, ##e^\dagger\equiv e|_{{\mathrm Im}\ L}## is an inverse map of ##L## and, as a submap of a covering map, is continuous. Hence ##\mathbb R## contains a homeomorphic image I am ##L## of ##S^1##. But ##S^1## is compact and connected, so I am ##L## must be too (by continuity of ##L##), from which we can deduce (omitting several steps) that I am ##L## is a closed interval.

But the fundamental group of a closed interval is the trivial group of one element, whereas the fundamental group of ##S^1## is isomorphic to the integers, so the image cannot be homeomorphic, which gives a contradiction, and we conclude that ##L## cannot be continuous.

On reflection, that last step uses some heavy machinery - fundamental groups - that may not be necessary. Let's try without that.

If L is continuous then we have a closed interval ##C=[u,v]\subset \mathbb R## that is homeomorphic to ##S^1## via ##L## and ##e^\dagger## that are each other's inverses. Can we get a contradiction from that?
Hint: think of how we can surgically 'disconnect' an interval and whether the same procedure works on a circle.
 
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Along what Andrew was saying, elaborating on both approaches, it if we use the induced map ## f_{*}## on the (first) fundamental group, we have ##f_{*}\ [a] := \[f{a]]=0 ## Then use the fact that if f is a covering map then the induced map of a covering map is injective, to get a contradiction. EDIT:

The map is given by ##p(x):=(sin 2\pi x, cos2 \pi x )##. Pull back an open set in the right ( or, equiv. left) half of ##S^1 ## to get a union of open intervals, each homeomorphic to ##S^1## (by definition of covering map) and restrict it to a compact set. Then the restriction to a compact set is a homeomorphism , using the simple but powerful result that a continuous bijection from Compact into Hausdorff is a homeomorphism, which cannot happen by what Andrew said, the connectivity number. Much nicer idea than my much clunkier proof.
 
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1. What is the identity map on the circle?

The identity map on the circle is a function that maps every point on the circle to itself. This means that the output of the function is the same as the input, resulting in a circle with no change in shape or location.

2. Why is it impossible to lift the identity map on the circle?

It is impossible to lift the identity map on the circle because the circle is a two-dimensional object and the identity map is a one-dimensional function. This means that the identity map can only be applied to points on the circle, and cannot be lifted to a higher dimension.

3. What does it mean to "lift" a map?

To "lift" a map means to extend it to a higher dimension. In other words, it involves finding a way to apply the map to points in a space with more dimensions than the original map was defined in.

4. How is the impossibility of lifting the identity map on the circle related to topology?

The impossibility of lifting the identity map on the circle is related to topology because it is a concept in the field of algebraic topology. Specifically, it relates to the idea of "covering spaces" and the fundamental group of a space.

5. Are there any exceptions to the impossibility of lifting the identity map on the circle?

No, there are no exceptions to the impossibility of lifting the identity map on the circle. This is a fundamental concept in topology that holds true in all cases, regardless of the specific shape or properties of the circle.

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