Integration of the Maxwell Speed Distribution

In summary, the conversation is discussing the procedure for solving the integration formula for Maxwell speed distribution and the calculation of kinetic energy. There was a suggestion from Wolfram-calculator, but the definite integral didn't add up to 1. The conversation also addresses the issue of the normalization factor being excluded in the calculations and how it affects the probability distribution. After some discussion and clarification, the participants agree that the normalization factor needs to be included for the correct solution.
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Need some help on how to solve the integration formula for Maxwell speed distribution, here is the procedure on
how to solve for the kinetic energy:

maxwell_kinetic.jpg

Not familiar with the error function yet, but the result for the kinetic energy integration is:

https://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=d/du(erf(sqrt(u))-2/(sqrt(pi))*sqrt(u)*e^(-u))

How to go on about solving for the speed distribution is the topic for this problem.

http://integral-table.com/

maxwell_speed.jpg
 
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What do you mean by "solving for the speed distribution"? That's given in equation 7.22.
 
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Trying to use the dimensionless variable u in the same manner as in the calculation for integrating between two energy levels as for the distribution of speeds. If I pick a random gas with different velocities and integrate between these, the numbers don't turn up the same.

For energy integral you can use u = K/E, and integrate between energy levels. As it is an probability distribution, all of the probabilities should add up as one in the definite integral. The answer will come out as percentage.

https://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=d/du(erf(sqrt(u))-2/(sqrt(pi))*sqrt(u)*e^(-u))

The definite integral for the distribution of speeds turns up as 0.443

https://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=d/du(-1/2+e^(-u^2)+u+++1/4+sqrt(π)+erf(u))
 
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In response to your last line, don't you see in your first post that there is a factor of ## \frac{4}{\sqrt{\pi}} ## in the speed distribution function? It thereby is properly normalized.
 
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Charles Link said:
In response to your last line, don't you see in your first post that there is a factor of ## \frac{4}{\sqrt{\pi}} ## in the speed distribution function? It thereby is properly normalized.

Here's an example, why is it excluded here ?

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Without studying it in great detail, I think they goofed. They need to include the normalization factor.
 
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Charles Link said:
Without studying it in great detail, I think they goofed. They need to include the normalization factor.

In the text, for equation 7.23, it says that the normalization factor is taken into account. v^(-1)
 
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TeslaPow said:
In the text, for equation 7.23, it says that the normalization factor is taken into account. v^(-1)
In the solution presented, they integrate ##u^2 \exp(-u^2)##, then say that the result is the probability. This is incorrect, as they forgot the normalization factor. The correct probability is the result they obtained multiplied by ##4/\sqrt{\pi}##, which is 0.0277.
 
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Look at your "link" in at the bottom of post 4. That one has it right for the speed distribution, where at the bottom of the "link" they compute the integral from ## 0 ## to ## + \infty ##, and the inverse of that is the normalization factor.
If you look at your first post between 7.23 and 7.24, they also have the correct expression for ## F_1(u) ##.
 
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Dr. Claude and Charles have both pointed out that the book made a mistake by omitting the normalization constant, but for whatever reason, you don't seem to accept that as the reason. It may help to work the problem out by hand. Just integrate the expression given for ##F_1(u)## from 0 to ##\infty##, and you'll see the result is equal to 1. You can do it by integrating by parts. Or can you explain why you just keep repeating your original question, which already has been answered? In other words, what's your real question?

Also, if you take the expression for ##d\rho## and actually do the change of variables mentioned in the text, you'll get the expression given for ##F_1##.
 
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Really appreciate the help, now the numbers are equivalent.
 
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1. What is the Maxwell Speed Distribution?

The Maxwell Speed Distribution is a probability distribution that describes the speeds of gas molecules in a gas at a given temperature. It is named after physicist James Clerk Maxwell who first described it in the 19th century.

2. How is the Maxwell Speed Distribution derived?

The Maxwell Speed Distribution is derived from the kinetic theory of gases, which states that gas molecules have a range of speeds and follow a specific distribution. It takes into account the mass of the gas molecules, the temperature of the gas, and the velocity of the molecules.

3. What is the significance of the Maxwell Speed Distribution?

The Maxwell Speed Distribution is important in understanding the behavior of gases and their properties. It helps explain phenomena such as diffusion, viscosity, and thermal conductivity. It is also used in various fields such as engineering, atmospheric science, and astrophysics.

4. How does the Maxwell Speed Distribution relate to the ideal gas law?

The Maxwell Speed Distribution is closely related to the ideal gas law, which describes the relationship between the pressure, volume, and temperature of an ideal gas. The distribution provides a more detailed understanding of the behavior of gas molecules at different temperatures and how they contribute to the overall properties of the gas.

5. Can the Maxwell Speed Distribution be applied to all gases?

The Maxwell Speed Distribution can be applied to gases that follow the kinetic theory of gases, which includes most gases at standard temperatures and pressures. However, it may not accurately describe the behavior of gases at extreme temperatures or pressures, or for gases with complex molecular structures.

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