Interpreting g(f u\otimes u + v\otimes v) with Scalar Field f

In summary, this rule is true for all vector fields, not just scalar fields. The only time this isn't true is when the metric has an [itex]\pm 1[/itex] on the diagonal.
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barnflakes
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I know that: [tex]g(a u\otimes v) = a g(u\otimes v)[/tex]

where u and v are vectors and a is a constant, but what if a is a scalar field, is this rule also true?

ie. how do I interpret the expression:

[tex]g(f u\otimes u + v\otimes v)[/tex]

where u and v are vector fields and f is a scalar field?
 
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Yes, it is. Tensor fields on a manifold M are always linear over [itex]C^\infty(M)[/itex], not just over [itex]\mathbb R[/itex]. The only object that you'll encounter that isn't this nice is the connection, [itex](X,Y)\mapsto\nabla_XY[/itex] which takes two vector fields to a vector field, and is [itex]C^\infty(M)[/itex] linear in the first variable (i.e. X), and only [itex]\mathbb R[/itex] linear in the second (i.e. Y).

I assume that your u and v are vector fields, not tangent vectors at a specific point p, and that g is the metric tensor field, not the metric tensor at p. Because it wouldn't make much sense to multiply a tangent vector at p with a scalar field.
 
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Thank you Fredrik, so I'm interpreting the above expression to be [tex]f g(u \otimes u) + g( v \otimes v)[/tex] ?

Also, when calculating the inverse metric tensor, it's of the form [tex]g^{ab} \partial_{a} \otimes \partial_{b} [/tex] but are the g^(ab) elements of the inverse metric equal to the g_(ab) elements of the metric?
 
  • #4
No, not necessarily :) The metric

[tex]
g^{ab} \partial_{a} \otimes \partial_{b}
[/tex]

can be seen as linear map from the space of vectors V to the space of dual vectors V*. These two spaces have the same dimension and are isomorphic. If you would write down the metric

[tex]
g_{ab} dx^{a} \otimes dx^{b}
[/tex]

you would get a linear map from V* to V. So you suspect that first acting with the "contravariant metric" on a dual vector obtaining a vector and then acting with the "covariant metric" on this vector would give you the original dual vector again: [itex]g^{ab} \partial_{a} \otimes \partial_{b}[/itex] and [itex]g_{ab} dx^{a} \otimes dx^{b} [/tex] are each others inverses. And the components of inverses don't have to be equal to each other. This only happens if the metric components equal those of the Kronecker delta, the Minkowski metric or some other metric with [itex]\pm 1 [/itex] on the diagonal.

I hope Fredrik doesn't mind that I'm answering, maybe he has some comments on it :)
 
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[tex]g^{ab}g_{bc} = \delta^a_c[/tex]
 
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I see I interchanged "vector space V" and "vector space V*" with each other.
 
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barnflakes said:
I know that: [tex]g(a u\otimes v) = a g(u\otimes v)[/tex]

I am curious: what do yo mean by [itex]g(u\otimes v)[/itex]? At every event in spacetime, you are taking [itex]g[/itex] to be a map

[tex]
g : V \otimes V \rightarrow ?
[/tex]

where [itex]V[/itex] is a tangent (vector) space. Is this really what you meant? This is possible, but usually [itex]g[/itex] is taken to to be a map

[tex]
g : V \times V \rightarrow \mathbb{R},
[/tex]

with evlauation denoted [itex]g \left( u , v \right)[/itex]. [itex] V \otimes V[/itex] and [itex] V \times V[/itex] are very different animals.
 
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George Jones said:
[tex]
g : V \times V \rightarrow \mathbb{R},
[/tex]

with evlauation denoted [itex]g \left( u , v \right)[/itex].

Some textbooks also use the set of smooth scaler functions [tex]C^{\infty}(M)[/tex] defined over the manifold M in place of [tex]\mathbb{R}[/tex].

AB
 
  • #9
Altabeh said:
Some textbooks also use the set of smooth scaler functions [tex]C^{\infty}(M)[/tex] defined over the manifold M in place of [tex]\mathbb{R}[/tex].

AB

I know, but I wrote
George Jones said:
At every event in spacetime,

i.e., I'm fixing an event [itex]p[/itex], in which case the map is into the set of real numbers.
 
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George Jones said:
i.e., I'm fixing an event [itex]p[/itex], in which case the map is into the set of real numbers.

Ah, my bad, I didn't pay attention carefully!

AB
 
  • #11
I didn't even notice that thing that George Jones brought up. I just saw a question about linearity and answered it. :smile: But I agree that the expression doesn't make sense as it stands.
 

Related to Interpreting g(f u\otimes u + v\otimes v) with Scalar Field f

1. What is the meaning of "g(f u\otimes u + v\otimes v) with Scalar Field f"?

This expression represents the metric tensor g being multiplied by a combination of two vectors (u and v) and a scalar field f.

2. How is g(f u\otimes u + v\otimes v) with Scalar Field f used in physics?

This expression is commonly used in the field of general relativity, where it helps describe the curvature of space-time in the presence of matter and energy. It is also used in other areas such as differential geometry and fluid mechanics.

3. What does the "u\otimes u + v\otimes v" part of the expression represent?

This represents the outer product of the two vectors u and v. This is a mathematical operation that results in a matrix, which in this case is being multiplied by the scalar field f.

4. How do you interpret g(f u\otimes u + v\otimes v) with Scalar Field f geometrically?

Geometrically, this expression represents a way to measure the distance and angle between two vectors in a curved space, taking into account the effects of the scalar field f.

5. What is the relationship between the metric tensor g and the scalar field f in this expression?

The metric tensor g and the scalar field f are both important components in describing the curvature of space-time. The scalar field f represents the distribution of matter and energy, while the metric tensor g describes the geometry of space-time. Together, they help us understand the effects of gravity and the structure of the universe.

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