Is dy/dx of x2+y2 = 50 the same as dy/dx of y = sqrt(50 - x2)?

In summary, implicit differentiation of x2+y2 = 50 is equivalent to y2 = 50 - x2, but the process of finding dy/dx is different.
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For implicit differentiation, is dy/dx of x2+y2 = 50 the same as y2 = 50 - x2 ?

From what I can take it, it'd be a no since.
For x2+y2 = 50,
d/dx (x2+y2) = d/dx (50) --- will eventually be ---> dy/dx = -x/y

Where,
y2 = 50 - x2
y = sqrt(50 - x2)
dy/dx = .5(-x2+50)-.5*(-2x)
 
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Derivatives (dy/dx) are operators on functions, not on equations. Your post is meaningless.
 
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Blockade said:
For implicit differentiation, is dy/dx of x2+y2 = 50 the same as y2 = 50 - x2 ?
You don't "take dy/dx of" anything. dy/dx is the derivative of y with respect to x. The two equations above are equivalent, meaning that any (x, y) pair that satisifies one equation also satisfies the other equation.

If you differentiate both sides of either equation with respect to x, you should be able to find dy/dx.
Blockade said:
From what I can take it, it'd be a no since.
For x2+y2 = 50,
d/dx (x2+y2) = d/dx (50) --- will eventually be ---> dy/dx = -x/y

Where,
y2 = 50 - x2
y = sqrt(50 - x2)
There's no need to solve for y. Just differentiate y2 implicitly with respect to x.
Blockade said:
dy/dx = .5(-x2+50)-.5*(-2x)
 
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Blockade said:
For implicit differentiation, is dy/dx of x2+y2 = 50 the same as y2 = 50 - x2 ?

From what I can take it, it'd be a no since.
For x2+y2 = 50,
d/dx (x2+y2) = d/dx (50) --- will eventually be ---> dy/dx = -x/y

Where,
y2 = 50 - x2
y = sqrt(50 - x2)
dy/dx = .5(-x2+50)-.5*(-2x)
Sub -in the value of y in the first equation ( and cancel out the twos on the second one).
 

1. What is implicit differentiation?

Implicit differentiation is a technique used in calculus to find the derivative of a function where the dependent variable is not explicitly defined in terms of the independent variable. In other words, it allows us to find the derivative of a function where the relationship between the two variables is not explicitly stated.

2. When is implicit differentiation used?

Implicit differentiation is used when a function is too complex to be solved explicitly for the dependent variable. It is also used when the function involves both the independent and dependent variables on the same side of the equation, making it difficult to isolate the dependent variable.

3. How is implicit differentiation different from explicit differentiation?

Explicit differentiation involves finding the derivative of a function where the dependent variable is explicitly defined in terms of the independent variable. This means that the function is written in the form of y = f(x), making it easy to isolate the dependent variable and take its derivative. On the other hand, implicit differentiation deals with functions where the dependent variable is not explicitly defined in terms of the independent variable.

4. What are the steps for performing implicit differentiation?

The steps for performing implicit differentiation are as follows:

  • Differentiate both sides of the equation with respect to the independent variable
  • Use the chain rule to differentiate any terms involving nested functions
  • Isolate the derivative of the dependent variable on one side of the equation
  • Simplify and solve for the derivative

5. What is the importance of implicit differentiation in real-world applications?

Implicit differentiation is commonly used in physics and engineering to solve problems involving rates of change and optimization. It allows us to find the slopes of curves and surfaces that cannot be expressed explicitly, making it a valuable tool in many real-world scenarios.

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