Is this valid when using arctanh ln identity?

In summary, the function arctanh(A/sqrt(A^2-1)) is real and always greater than 1 since A > 1. It is also possible to manipulate ln((1+A/sqrt(A^2-1))/-(1-A/sqrt(A^2-1))) as ln((1+A/sqrt(A^2-1))/((1-A/sqrt(A^2-1))) to account for the modulus around the argument of ln.
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Hi,

I start with [tex] arctanh\left(\frac{A}{\sqrt{A^2-1}}\right)=\frac{1}{2}ln\left( \frac{1+\frac{A}{\sqrt{A^2-1}}}{1-\frac{A}{\sqrt{A^2-1}}}\right)[/tex]

The function [tex] \frac{A}{\sqrt{A^2-1}} [/tex] is real, and since A>1, it too is always greater than 1.

Is it true that it should really be the modulus around the argument of ln? therefore I can manipulate it as follows:

[tex] ln\left( \frac{1+\frac{A}{\sqrt{A^2-1}}}{1-\frac{A}{\sqrt{A^2-1}}}\right)=ln\left( \frac{1+\frac{A}{\sqrt{A^2-1}}}{-(1-\frac{A}{\sqrt{A^2-1}})}\right)=ln\left( \frac{1+\frac{A}{\sqrt{A^2-1}}}{(1-\frac{A}{\sqrt{A^2-1}})}\right)[/tex]
[/tex]

thanks
 
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In general |tanh(x)| < 1 for x real. Therefore it is to be expected that you will have a complex x for arctanh(u) when u > 1.
 

Related to Is this valid when using arctanh ln identity?

What is the arctanh ln identity?

The arctanh ln identity is a mathematical identity that relates the inverse hyperbolic tangent function (arctanh) to the natural logarithm function (ln). It states that arctanh(ln(x)) = (1/2)ln((1+x)/(1-x)), where x is any real number greater than or equal to 1.

How is the arctanh ln identity used in scientific research?

The arctanh ln identity is often used in scientific research to simplify and solve complex equations involving the inverse hyperbolic tangent function and the natural logarithm function. It is particularly useful in statistics, physics, and engineering.

Is the arctanh ln identity valid for all real numbers?

No, the arctanh ln identity is only valid for real numbers greater than or equal to 1. If the input to either function is outside of this range, the identity will not hold true.

What are some common applications of the arctanh ln identity?

The arctanh ln identity has many applications in various fields of science and mathematics. It is commonly used in probability and statistics to calculate the inverse of the cumulative distribution function for the normal distribution. It is also used in physics to solve equations involving energy and temperature, and in engineering to model and analyze complex systems.

Are there any limitations to using the arctanh ln identity?

One limitation of the arctanh ln identity is that it can only be applied to real numbers. It cannot be used for complex numbers. Additionally, the identity may not hold true for certain values of the input, such as if the input is too close to 1 or if it is a negative number. In these cases, other mathematical methods may need to be used.

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