Joule free adiabatic expansion dT=0?

In summary, the conversation discusses an experiment where the internal energy is zero and the volume increases, causing a decrease in pressure. It is then questioned whether the temperature will remain constant. The response states that in an isothermal expansion, the internal energy will not change, but in other cases, such as an adiabatic expansion, the temperature may change. The conversation then shifts to discussing Joule's experiment with an ideal gas and the relationship between internal energy and temperature. Finally, the topic of an endothermic reaction and its effect on temperature is brought up.
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In that experiment , the internal energy is zero , volume increase , pressure of system decrease, then temperature will constant ?

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Nope, not guaranteed. The expansion can also be adiabatic, or heat can even be loss while work is done by the gas.

Only an isothermal expansion guarantees no change in internal energy.
 
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greswd said:
Nope, not guaranteed. The expansion can also be adiabatic, or heat can even be loss while work is done by the gas.

Only an isothermal expansion guarantees no change in internal energy.

Then when it expand to vacuum?
No work will be done because the external pressure is zero.
Internal energy will not change as no heat enter, no work done
Will the temperature change ?
 
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Outrageous said:
Then when it expand to vacuum?
No work will be done because the external pressure is zero.
Internal energy will not change as no heat enter, no work done
Will the temperature change ?

That depends.

Since w = 0 and q = 0 for the experiment that Joule performed, the change in internal energy U was also 0.
Joule measured the temperature change to also be 0.
The conclusion was that for an ideal gas, the internal energy U is a function of temperature only.

For a real gas, that is no longer true but varies slightly.

Here is some reading for you.
http://www.chem.arizona.edu/~salzmanr/480a/480ants/jadjte/jadjte.html
 
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Thank
Then the answer for this thread is dT= 0 for ideal gas.

When a chemical endothermic reaction is carried out, then heat from the surrounding is absorbed , that is why the container of the chemical solution feel cold.
I wondered if I carry out the same experiment adiabatically, will the temperature of chemical solution drop?
 

1. What is joule free adiabatic expansion?

Joule free adiabatic expansion is a process in thermodynamics where the temperature remains constant during expansion, meaning there is no exchange of heat with the surroundings. This process is also known as isothermal expansion.

2. How does joule free adiabatic expansion differ from other types of expansions?

In joule free adiabatic expansion, there is no change in temperature, whereas in other types of expansions, such as isobaric or isochoric, the temperature can change.

3. What is the equation for joule free adiabatic expansion?

The equation for joule free adiabatic expansion is dT=0, which means that the change in temperature is equal to zero.

4. What are some real-life examples of joule free adiabatic expansion?

A common example of joule free adiabatic expansion is the expansion of a gas in a piston without any heat transfer. Another example is the cooling of a gas as it expands through a small hole, such as in a can of compressed air.

5. What is the significance of joule free adiabatic expansion in thermodynamics?

Joule free adiabatic expansion is important in thermodynamics because it allows for the study of systems where heat transfer is not present. This can help in understanding the behavior of gases and other substances in various processes, such as in engines or refrigeration systems.

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