Light energy, just like time, is relative?

In summary, gravity and speed through space have an effect on time. Increased gravity and increased speed both result in slower time. When observing stars, we may see a red shift due to the expanding of space or the Doppler effect caused by relative velocity. As we move towards a star, the light shifts in energy due to the Doppler blueshift. However, our own perception of time does not change. Energy, in all its forms, is relative.
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Aspchizo
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Gravity and speed through space has an effect on time.

Increased gravity = slower time
Increased speed = slower time

When we look out at the stars and measure their spectrum, we see a red shift. This red shift is the result of the increase in the distance between the source of the light and us, otherwise known as the expanding of space.

So if we were to fly towards a star, as we increase our speed, the light should shift more and more. Eventually it would pass down through the spectrum to gamma rays, and our space shuttle would be torn apart by the immensly high energy gamma rays.

So the speed of light remains constant, but as you increase your speed towards the source of the light, your perception of time is slowed and the energy of the light shifts.

Anything wrong with this?
 
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Aspchizo said:
Gravity and speed through space has an effect on time.

This is not incorrect, but it is relative; when you say someone's time is slower, you have to specify what it is slower relative to. No one perceives their own time to be slower; everyone experiences their own time flowing at the same rate.

Aspchizo said:
When we look out at the stars and measure their spectrum, we see a red shift. This red shift is the result of the increase in the distance between the source of the light and us, otherwise known as the expanding of space.

That's one way of looking at it--the light gets stretched out as it travels through expanding space. But it's not the only way of looking at it; another is that it's just a Doppler redshift, caused by the fact that the source of the light is moving away from us--it's due to relative velocity, not light stretching out. These are not incompatible explanations; they're just different ways of looking at the same process.

Ned Wright's cosmology tutorial has a good discussion of this:

http://www.astro.ucla.edu/~wright/cosmo_02.htm

Aspchizo said:
So if we were to fly towards a star, as we increase our speed, the light should shift more and more. Eventually it would pass down through the spectrum to gamma rays, and our space shuttle would be torn apart by the immensly high energy gamma rays.

Yes, this is true, because the Doppler blueshift in frequency (blueshift because you're now moving towards the light source, rather than away) corresponds to a shift in energy, since energy is just Planck's constant divided by frequency.

Aspchizo said:
So the speed of light remains constant

Yes.

Aspchizo said:
as you increase your speed towards the source of the light, your perception of time is slowed

No; see above. Another observer moving relative to you might say that your time is slowed, but you yourself perceive no difference in your own flow of time.

Aspchizo said:
and the energy of the light shifts.

Yes.
 
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Thanks for clarification. Also, I never meant to imply that we perceive a change in time, it is relative to someone else.
 
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also, energy in all its forms is relative (whether it is contained in the electric field, or some other way). google four-momentum, or also, the stress-energy tensor.
 
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PeterDonis said:
Yes, this is true, because the Doppler blueshift in frequency (blueshift because you're now moving towards the light source, rather than away) corresponds to a shift in energy, since energy is just Planck's constant divided by frequency.

Hi Peter. Surely you mean Planck's constant *times" frequency.
 
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Saw said:
Surely you mean Planck's constant *times" frequency.

Yes, you're right. :redface:
 

Related to Light energy, just like time, is relative?

1. What does it mean for light energy to be relative?

Light energy, just like time, is relative means that the properties of light, such as its speed and wavelength, can vary depending on the observer's frame of reference. This is known as the theory of relativity, proposed by Albert Einstein in 1905.

2. How does the theory of relativity apply to light energy?

The theory of relativity states that the laws of physics are the same for all observers moving at a constant speed, regardless of their relative motion. This applies to light energy because the speed of light is always constant, regardless of the observer's frame of reference.

3. Is light energy affected by gravity?

Yes, light energy is affected by gravity. According to Einstein's theory of general relativity, gravity is the curvature of spacetime caused by the presence of mass or energy. This curvature can alter the path of light, causing it to bend or appear to slow down.

4. How does the relativity of light energy affect our perception of time?

The relativity of light energy and the theory of relativity also apply to time. This means that time can appear to pass differently for different observers depending on their relative motion. For example, time can appear to slow down for an observer moving at high speeds compared to a stationary observer.

5. Can light energy be used to travel through time?

No, light energy cannot be used to travel through time. While the theory of relativity allows for the possibility of time travel, it is only possible for objects or particles with mass, not for light energy which has no mass. Additionally, the amount of energy required for time travel is currently beyond our technological capabilities.

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