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Mars Mission -- an act of Lunacy or Science?
1) 6 Month travel to Mars in tiny capsule.
3) No fresh veggies, fruits, nuts etc...
4) No entertainment
5) Nothing to do on the way to Mars
6) Because of size limitations not much scientific gear can be taken on voyage thus unlike moon missions they have long stay but comparatively little to do.
This sounds like a torture chamber and I'd be afraid to travel with anyone willing to suffer in it. It the superlative of insanity. These are my requirements for mission;
Don't try to settle Mars but build a Mobile Scientific Research Vessel for traveling from place to place in solar system; it will be capable of taking crew of 200 to Pluto in about 3 months. Create Mars outpost stations for scientific study purposes. It will be accessible from Vessel scientists will live on vessel not Mars or perhaps vessel can recover them on returning from other missions.
Vessel Requirements -
There are those that will say this is too ambitious, grandiose and/or impractical but it is important to remember we are humans first. As such, we are responsible to respect and not endanger the lives of humans or any creature; I think most have had course in ethics. Can NASA go to Mars today, maybe (with great loss of life and little science) ... but under current technology why bother? To beat Russia, China? That's too childish I think humanity has grown much since childish days of American Russian space race.
My idea is reusable, ethically biased towards science, survival and enjoyment as science should be. Not the current obsolete danger is a way of life in space (that is too medieval and reminiscent of an age of bloodletting, butchery and religious dogma -- I don't accept this; no one should). Why haven't we established settlements on ocean floor, why are there no settlements in harsh deserts, then why settle Mars an even more vast arid region by factor of 1000 bathed in unfiltered radiation and a distance of 6794 km from civilization? Suicide missions should not be funded by government! LOL
Also, USA and other countries needs realization that they alone do not have the resources, cash, or know how to 'Go It Alone' (to quote an infamous character -- G.Dubya Bush). I suggest the formation of a "World Space Organization for Advancement of Science and Humankind". No politics policy will be built into charter. All are welcome even if country A invades B no punishing the scientists of A (we were taught in preschool to play nice together this rule does not change with adulthood LOL!). That is it. I hope NASA decide not to create a Mars death mission -- at least not until they have proper technology.
As for human settlement there is no place in our solar system except Earth suitable for animal life. So, take care of the Earth and keep it clean and beautiful. If one is concerned about it's destruction figure out ways of protecting it. For settlement, one needs Tera forming or ability to find a planet COMPATIBLE for Earth based organisms. To think after millions of years of earthly evolution and existence one can up root humans and plant it on harsh Martian environment and expect it to thrive is leaning towards lunacy! What are you a Scientist or Frankenstein Mad Scientist! LOL!
My final message is this. It Seems counterintuitive, counterproductive, and maybe even stupid, to search for life on Mars, or anywhere, with such a reckless disregard, contempt, disrespect and disdain for life, human life!
1) 6 Month travel to Mars in tiny capsule.
- Currently, a NASA capsule Stinks inside of Vomit, Feces and URINE.
- Capsules are noisy
- Shower consists of moist rag
- Drink recycled urine
- No Gravity -- (You will squish by Mars gravity)
- Nothing to do during voyage to Mars.
3) No fresh veggies, fruits, nuts etc...
4) No entertainment
5) Nothing to do on the way to Mars
6) Because of size limitations not much scientific gear can be taken on voyage thus unlike moon missions they have long stay but comparatively little to do.
This sounds like a torture chamber and I'd be afraid to travel with anyone willing to suffer in it. It the superlative of insanity. These are my requirements for mission;
Don't try to settle Mars but build a Mobile Scientific Research Vessel for traveling from place to place in solar system; it will be capable of taking crew of 200 to Pluto in about 3 months. Create Mars outpost stations for scientific study purposes. It will be accessible from Vessel scientists will live on vessel not Mars or perhaps vessel can recover them on returning from other missions.
Vessel Requirements -
- Safe enough for even the old guys to study in space.
- Living quarters configurable to 1, 2, to 3 bed room apartments depending if scientists on mission with family.
- It will have gravity (not by spinning around on a gurney (I'm dizzy going to hurl dude -- Frankenstein technology LOL!)
- It will have powerful engines (non-chemical of course)
- It will have unlimited water for drinking and showers.
- It will have robotics for exploring dangerous regions (Mars, Europa oceans, etc...)
- robots will be able to walk, run, crawl, swim, and small jet pack
- robots have feedback of tactile, taste, smell.
- robots are highly dexterous
- have tool pack for exploration.
- controlled by virtual reality or autonomous mode.
- It will have 3 floors. Living quarters floor size of football field, science level 4 football fields, recreation, gardening, live stock size of 4 football fields.
- Recreation area for fun and play (Who wants to not have fun -- no fun I'm not going! LOL)
- Quantum Communications (a method I'm trying to figure out for instantaneous communications)
- Plain Ole Radio Communications
- Deep space probes; basically satellites that can be deployed around stellar bodies like moons, asteroids etc...)
- 2 EMR crafts for emergency return to Earth for the severely ill -- human life is of HIGHEST IMPORTANCE nothing else is acceptable (ethics, morality and a general code of human decency precludes any arguments against this -- suppose to be scientists not butchers)
- Space Elevator that can be used on some stellar bodies to lower people and equipment.
- Excursion vehicles as alternate form to get onto surfaces.
- New spacesuit's that are conducive to working in the field. (I like MIT's skin hugging space suites - http://www.physorg.com/news10683.html
- Photon torpedoes, JUST KIDDING LOL
- Crew of Men, Women (maybe their families -- this will be safe vehicle not the suicide vehicles of NASA) of at least 200.
- Facilities for health care, surgeons, doctors ... people will get sick we are bio organics. To claim to this is not needed is to say if people get sick they will die ... Frankenstein Mentality
- Diverse cultures; no politics either Iran, Russia, Korea (North/South), Palestine, Israel, Afghan, Iraq, Cuba) everyone welcome.
There are those that will say this is too ambitious, grandiose and/or impractical but it is important to remember we are humans first. As such, we are responsible to respect and not endanger the lives of humans or any creature; I think most have had course in ethics. Can NASA go to Mars today, maybe (with great loss of life and little science) ... but under current technology why bother? To beat Russia, China? That's too childish I think humanity has grown much since childish days of American Russian space race.
My idea is reusable, ethically biased towards science, survival and enjoyment as science should be. Not the current obsolete danger is a way of life in space (that is too medieval and reminiscent of an age of bloodletting, butchery and religious dogma -- I don't accept this; no one should). Why haven't we established settlements on ocean floor, why are there no settlements in harsh deserts, then why settle Mars an even more vast arid region by factor of 1000 bathed in unfiltered radiation and a distance of 6794 km from civilization? Suicide missions should not be funded by government! LOL
Also, USA and other countries needs realization that they alone do not have the resources, cash, or know how to 'Go It Alone' (to quote an infamous character -- G.Dubya Bush). I suggest the formation of a "World Space Organization for Advancement of Science and Humankind". No politics policy will be built into charter. All are welcome even if country A invades B no punishing the scientists of A (we were taught in preschool to play nice together this rule does not change with adulthood LOL!). That is it. I hope NASA decide not to create a Mars death mission -- at least not until they have proper technology.
As for human settlement there is no place in our solar system except Earth suitable for animal life. So, take care of the Earth and keep it clean and beautiful. If one is concerned about it's destruction figure out ways of protecting it. For settlement, one needs Tera forming or ability to find a planet COMPATIBLE for Earth based organisms. To think after millions of years of earthly evolution and existence one can up root humans and plant it on harsh Martian environment and expect it to thrive is leaning towards lunacy! What are you a Scientist or Frankenstein Mad Scientist! LOL!
My final message is this. It Seems counterintuitive, counterproductive, and maybe even stupid, to search for life on Mars, or anywhere, with such a reckless disregard, contempt, disrespect and disdain for life, human life!
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