Massless Particles from Massive Theory: Understanding the m->0 Limit

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In summary, Zee's textbook and Peskin and Schroeder discuss the derivation of massless particles from massive ones. The photon can be derived this way, but not the graviton. Weinberg notes that coupling to a conserved source is necessary for this derivation in both electromagnetism and gravity. The Dirac equation also has both right-handed and left-handed solutions, while the Weyl equation in the limit of vanishing mass only has one of each. The "2/3 anomaly" is explained by a discrepancy that arises at small distances in the limit of m->0, which becomes infinitely large. There are no general rules for when it is possible to derive massless particles from the massive case.
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In Zee's textbook, the photon and "graviton" propagators are derived as the m->0 limit of massive spin 1,2 particles; this works for the photon, but not the graviton. Weinberg adds the caveat that we obtain electrodynamics from the massive theory only if we couple the particles to a conserved source. In Peskin and Schroeder, the Weyl equations are presented as the Dirac equation in the limit of vanishing mass, and as far as I know nothing goes wrong.

Are there any general rules as to when it is and is not possible to derive the physics of a massless particle from the massive case?
 
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Zee: I think you're referring to the "2/3 anomaly"? Later on, pp 426-427, Zee gives the explanation for this paradox, namely that the limit m → 0 is not uniformly valid, and the discrepancy exists only beyond a characteristic distance scale which becomes indefinitely large as m → 0.

Weinberg: The comment about coupling to a conserved source holds for both electromagnetism and gravity. In the case of electromagnetism the source is Jμ while for gravity it's Tμν, both of which are conserved.

Dirac/Weyl: The difference is that the Dirac equation has both right-handed and left-handed solutions. If you take the limit m → 0 you'll wind up with a right-handed Weyl particle and a left-handed one also.
 

Related to Massless Particles from Massive Theory: Understanding the m->0 Limit

1. What are massless particles and how are they related to massive theory?

Massless particles are particles that have no rest mass, meaning they travel at the speed of light. They are related to massive theory because the understanding of the m->0 limit is crucial in understanding how massive particles can become massless.

2. Why is understanding the m->0 limit important in physics?

Understanding the m->0 limit is important because it allows us to study the behavior of particles at the speed of light, which is crucial in understanding many fundamental phenomena in physics, such as relativity and quantum mechanics.

3. How is the m->0 limit calculated in massive theory?

The m->0 limit is calculated by taking the limit of the mass term in the equations of massive theory as it approaches zero. This allows us to see how the behavior of the particles changes as their mass becomes smaller and smaller.

4. Can m->0 limit be applied to all particles?

No, the m->0 limit only applies to particles that have a mass term in their equations. For example, photons are inherently massless particles and do not have a mass term, so the m->0 limit does not apply to them.

5. What are the practical applications of understanding the m->0 limit?

Understanding the m->0 limit has many practical applications in fields such as particle physics, astrophysics, and cosmology. It allows us to better understand the behavior of massless particles, which are crucial in many fundamental processes and phenomena in the universe.

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