Misunderstanding part of pascals identity algebraic proof

In summary, the combinatorial proof for Pascal's rule utilizes the definition of factorial to simplify the terms in the denominator. By multiplying the numerator and denominator by the same number, the denominators become equal, allowing for further simplification. This method is used in the step where [(n-k+1)n!kn!]/[k!(n-k+1)!] simplifies to [(n+1)n!]/[k!((n+1)-k)!]. This approach can be confusing at first, but understanding the definition of factorial helps to make sense of it.
  • #1
CuriousBanker
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I understand the combinatorial proof and the common sense behind why it works but lately I am trying to play around with proofs since I am still new to them. So I understand part of this:

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Where I am getting confused is the step where we combine terms. The denominator of the first term is (n-k+1)k!(n-k)! , and the denominator of the second term is k(k-1)!(n-k+1)!

Then on the next line the denominator is k!(n-k+1)!.

How is that a common denominator for those two terms? I see there is a (n-k+1)! in both terms...but in the second term there is a k(k-1)! and in the first term there is a k!(n-k)!...how do those two terms somehow both reduce to k!?
 
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  • #2
It works because of the way the factorial is defined:
$$k! = k \cdot \underbrace{(k - 1) \cdot (k - 2) \cdots 2 \cdot 1}_{{} = (k - 1)!}$$
Similarly, you can show that (n - k + 1) * (n - k)! = (n - k + 1)!.

This is actually the reason for taking the first step: multiplying denominator and numerator by the same number so that the denominators become equal.
 
  • #3
CompuChip said:
It works because of the way the factorial is defined:
$$k! = k \cdot \underbrace{(k - 1) \cdot (k - 2) \cdots 2 \cdot 1}_{{} = (k - 1)!}$$
Similarly, you can show that (n - k + 1) * (n - k)! = (n - k + 1)!.

This is actually the reason for taking the first step: multiplying denominator and numerator by the same number so that the denominators become equal.

Ok, that makes sense. But how does [(n-k+1)n!kn!]/[k!(n-k+1)!] simpylify to [(n+1)n!]/[k!((n+1)-k)!]

Totally lost as to how that step happened
 
  • #4
CuriousBanker said:
Ok, that makes sense. But how does [(n-k+1)n!kn!]/[k!(n-k+1)!] simpylify to [(n+1)n!]/[k!((n+1)-k)!]

Totally lost as to how that step happened
For the numerator,
[tex](n-k+1)n!kn![/tex]can you see that this is:
[tex][(n-k+1)+k]n![/tex] ?

...which equals:
[tex](n+1)n![/tex]
For the denominator, surely you can see that [itex]n-k+1=(n+1)-k[/itex]
 
  • #5
oay said:
For the numerator,
[tex](n-k+1)n!kn![/tex]can you see that this is:
[tex][(n-k+1)+k]n![/tex] ?

How? (n−k+1)n!kn! = [(n-k+1)n!]*kn!, whereas [(n−k+1)+k]n! = [(n-k+1)n!]+kn!

For the denominator, surely you can see that [itex]n-k+1=(n+1)-k[/itex]

Yeah, that part is obvious
 
  • #6
CuriousBanker said:
How? (n−k+1)n!kn! = [(n-k+1)n!]*kn!, whereas [(n−k+1)+k]n! = [(n-k+1)n!]+kn!
Sorry, I made the mistake of quoting your misquote. :redface:

The numerator is actually [itex](n-k+1)n!+kn![/itex] which is [itex][(n-k+1)+k]n![/itex] which is [itex](n+1)n![/itex]
 
  • #7
oay said:
Sorry, I made the mistake of quoting your misquote. :redface:

The numerator is actually [itex](n-k+1)n!+kn![/itex] which is [itex][(n-k+1)+k]n![/itex] which is [itex](n+1)n![/itex]

Ah, I understand now, thank you so much! That was bugging me for hours
 

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1. What is Pascal's identity in algebra?

Pascal's identity, also known as Pascal's rule, is a mathematical formula that allows for the expansion of binomial coefficients. It states that the sum of the coefficients of a binomial expansion is equal to the coefficient of the next term in the expansion.

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Pascal's identity is often used in algebraic proofs involving binomial coefficients. It allows for the simplification of complex expressions and can be used to prove various algebraic equations and identities.

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