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I carry that around too. As a nasal spray. But I frequent weird places as you might imagine.berkeman said:I'm so sorry for you and your friend's loss, JR. I've started carrying Narcan in my medical kit now on my EMS shifts. I wish I was there to respond.
In that sense, the most dangerous chemical is the one that stores the most energy right? something radioactive?Klystron said:Useful but dangerous chemicals include nitrogen based rocket propellants such as
Most explosives constitute 'dangerous chemicals' but rocket fuels are stored and used in quite large quantities and, in the case of manned rockets, in close proximity to humans.
- Dinitrogen tetroxide (N2O4)
- hydrazine (N2H4)
Not many people remember as it transpired close to 9/11 but ironically the guy the FBI think was responsible for the Amerithrax letters comitted suicide using OTC painkillers.fresh_42 said:I have read about a British girl who died (liver failure) from an overdose of paracetamol. I don't remember the exact dose, but it wasn't much. And if you do not like liver failure, then there is still ibuprofen (kidney failure). And you surely do not want to survive, but probably will, an ASA overdose.
One doesn't need opioids to cause damage. This entire thread only exists because nobody ever said what "dangerous" in the OP actually means.
In Europe they were able to reduce the number of deaths from paracetamol overdose by selling the pills in smaller packages:fresh_42 said:I have read about a British girl who died (liver failure) from an overdose of paracetamol. I don't remember the exact dose, but it wasn't much. And if you do not like liver failure, then there is still ibuprofen (kidney failure). And you surely do not want to survive, but probably will, an ASA overdose.
Doesn't work. a) You could simply go to many different drug stores, and b) get it in the first one by referring to a). So it only affects overdoses by accident.phyzguy said:In Europe they were able to reduce the number of deaths from paracetamol overdose by selling the pills in smaller packages:
https://www.bmj.com/press-releases/2013/02/06/43-reduction-deaths-paracetamol-due-smaller-pack-sizes#:~:text=43% reduction in deaths from paracetamol due to smaller pack sizes,-(Published 6 February&text=The number of deaths and,today on bmj.com suggests.
Well, it did work. If you read the article, it reduced the deaths by 47%. I don't know how much was suicide and how much was accidental overdose, but probably both. It's well known that reducing access to guns reduces the suicide rate. Sometimes people are despondent and suicidal, but the feeling doesn't last forever. If you make it harder to commit suicide, later they feel better and are glad they didn't go through with it.fresh_42 said:Doesn't work. a) You could simply go to many different drug stores, and b) get it in the first one by referring to a). So it only affects overdoses by accident.
I once worked on an external "artificial liver" for acute liver crises caused mostly from ongoing OD from Tylenol The problem with Acetominophen (paracetamol) is the tight long term dose window and its seemingly ubiquitous analgesic use. Folks taking several different meds could get into a cumulative dose sufficient to cause acute crises. There was clearly sufficient demand to warrant a pretty good R&D budget from some fat cats. I don't think this was driven by suicide attempts using acetominophen volitionallyphyzguy said:I don't know how much was suicide and how much was accidental overdose, but probably both