Negative Ease in knitting (both in flat rows and in rounds)

In summary, the negative ease observed in knitting, particularly in rib patterns, can be partially explained by the stretch-ability of the materials used, such as wool and acrylic. However, there is also a movement of the yarn in between the "live" knots, which can be seen when applying force on both ends. This movement is caused by the individual fibers, which act like springs and have the tendency to recover their shape after being stretched. The effect can be compared to wet hair, where the molecular bonds weaken when wet and allow for styling, but re-establish when dried. Therefore, it is not recommended to hang a wet wool garment to dry as it may stretch and not regain its original shape.
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Tomato Evony
I am a knitter and am interested using physics to explain the negative ease we see in knitting especially in rib [ (k1, p1) rib for example). I think some could be explained by the stretch-ability of the materials, e.g. wool, acrylic, but is there a movement of the yarn in between the "live" knots (the yarn form "knots" when they knit / purl) and if so I can see the yarn move when applying force on both ends, but how can they recoil back to original position when force is remove ?
 
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Tomato Evony said:
I am a knitter and am interested using physics to explain the negative ease we see in knitting especially in rib [ (k1, p1) rib for example). I think some could be explained by the stretch-ability of the materials, e.g. wool, acrylic, but is there a movement of the yarn in between the "live" knots (the yarn form "knots" when they knit / purl) and if so I can see the yarn move when applying force on both ends, but how can they recoil back to original position when force is remove ?
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Here are some photomicrographs of 2-strand 2-ply Peruvian Highland Wool yarn. It is unused and still in a ball. The fine marks on the ruler are 1/100 inch apart.

The first image is the relaxed yarn just unwound from the ball. Note that the individual fibers (hair) are crinkled, not straight, and rather tangled.

The second image is the yarn stretched by pulling on it. Here the fibers are straighter and closer together and the yarn diameter is smaller.

The third image is the yarn again relaxed. You can see it has regained much of its diameter and can probably detect that individual strands are again not straight.
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It is the tendency of the hair to recover its shape (crinkled) that causes the finished product to at least partially recover the original shape after being stretched. Each fiber acts somewhat like a spring.

Hope this helps.

Cheers,
Tom

p.s. Additional factoid:
Just like your hair, if it doesn't want to be neatly combed, get it wet then try again. The water weakens the molecular bonds in the hair so it isn't so springy. You then style as needed and let it dry. When the water dries, the molecular bonds re-establish and it magically stays put.

That's why it is not a good idea to hang a wet wool garment to dry it. The weight of the wet wool stretches it and then the molecular bonds re-establish themselves as it dries... and your nice piece of work no longer fits!
 
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What is negative ease in knitting and how does it apply to flat rows?

Negative ease in knitting refers to the technique of intentionally knitting a garment smaller than the actual body measurements. This is commonly used in garments such as socks, hats, and gloves to create a snug and form-fitting fit. In flat rows, negative ease is achieved by decreasing the number of stitches as the fabric is worked, resulting in a stretchy and close-fitting piece.

How does negative ease work in knitting in rounds?

In knitting in rounds, negative ease is achieved by working with a smaller needle size than what is recommended for the yarn. This creates a tighter tension and results in a smaller circumference for the finished garment. Negative ease in knitting in rounds is commonly used in projects such as sweaters and skirts to create a more fitted silhouette.

What are the benefits of using negative ease in knitting?

Negative ease in knitting can create a more flattering and form-fitting garment, as well as provide more structure and support. It is also commonly used in projects that require a stretchy fabric, such as socks and gloves. Additionally, using negative ease can help conserve yarn and reduce the amount of bulk in the finished piece.

How do you calculate negative ease in knitting?

To calculate negative ease in knitting, you will need to determine the desired finished measurements and subtract the amount of negative ease you want to achieve. Then, you can use a gauge swatch to calculate the number of stitches needed to achieve the smaller measurements. It is important to note that different yarns and stitch patterns can affect the amount of negative ease, so it is best to swatch and adjust as needed.

Are there any tips for working with negative ease in knitting?

When working with negative ease in knitting, it is important to keep an even tension and to use a flexible cast-on method to ensure the garment is not too tight. You may also need to adjust your needle size or yarn weight to achieve the desired results. It is also a good idea to try on the garment as you go to ensure the fit is correct and make any necessary adjustments.

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