Next steps after Kleppner/Kolenkow and Purcell/Morin

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In summary, the author recommends books like Taylor, Morin, and Goldstein for classical mechanics, Jackson for electrodynamics, and Powell and Craseman or Messiah for quantum mechanics. After these, he recommends Ballentine for classical mechanics and Zettili and Saxon for quantum mechanics.
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I finished the two semester calculus based physics sequence (using Halliday, Resnick, and Walker) at my school last semester as well as the three semester calculus sequence (although we didn't cover line and surface integrals or the theorems of Green and Stokes so I had to learn that on my own). I am currently working through An Introduction to Mechanics by Kleppner and Kolenkow, Electricity and Magnetism by Purcell and Morin, and Mathematical Methods in the Physical Sciences by Boas.

I'd like to study classical mechanics but I don't know what book(s) would be suitable. Perhaps Taylor, Morin, or Goldstein?

For electrodynamics what would be the next step up? Is Jackson too big of a jump from Purcell and Morin? Is Griffiths more appropriate? When I'm ready for Jackson, are there any alternatives to think about or is it the only choice for its level?

What's a good book for learning quantum mechanics after classical mechanics? Should I start with a book like Shankar's then move on to Sakurai or Merzbacher?

Sorry if this is too many questions. Maybe I'm getting ahead of myself, I've just been doing a lot of reading to try to figure which books to buy and I'm having a hard time figuring out what kind of progression is reasonable.
 
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After Kleppner and Kolenko, Goldstein would be ambitious but possible Practically all graduate programs use it. Another good book is Marion and Thornton Classical Dynamic. However, I preferred the hard to find book Mechanics by Symon.

Electrodynamics. (Practically all Grad programs use Jackson.) Jackson is a big jump. A couple of good books for electrodynamics for a more gentle jump is : Ohanian, Classical Electrodynamics, Melvin Schwartz : Principles of Electrodynamics (inexpensive Dover). Wangsness, and Reitz and Milford are also OK.

(I think Panofsky and Phillips may be even a more dramatic jump than Jackson, although I do like the book once a good background is established)

For QM I like an old textbook Powell and Craseman or Messiah. I learned from Merzbacher (Good). Bohm's book on quantum mechanics is very good (Inexpensive Dover). Sakurai is mostly used in a grad program (Good Book). I do not like Shankar as much (but OK).

P.S I like these Dover's not because they are cheap. They are also very good. Perhaps Schwartz is too concise.
 
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CM: My favorite book on CM is Gregory. It's very clear and contains lots of examples. https://www.amazon.com/dp/0521534097/?tag=pfamazon01-20
Taylor is also a good choice.
If you find these too slow, try Kibble & Berkshire
https://www.amazon.com/dp/1860944353/?tag=pfamazon01-20

EM: I always recommend Franklin and Zangwill
https://www.amazon.com/dp/0805387331/?tag=pfamazon01-20
https://www.amazon.com/dp/0521896975/?tag=pfamazon01-20
These are graduate level texts but they both start from scratch. If you find these too hard,
you can always come back and try Griffiths (it's also excellent).

QM: If you know spanish, you should definitely get this one
https://www.amazon.com/dp/6071601762/?tag=pfamazon01-20
it is by far my favorite book on the subject. Other basic (and good) texts are Zettili and Saxon (Dover).
When you are done move on to Ballentine
https://www.amazon.com/dp/9810241054/?tag=pfamazon01-20

Hope this helps!
 
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Xiuh said:
CM: My favorite book on CM is Gregory. It's very clear and contains lots of examples. https://www.amazon.com/dp/0521534097/?tag=pfamazon01-20
Taylor is also a good choice.
If you find these too slow, try Kibble & Berkshire
https://www.amazon.com/dp/1860944353/?tag=pfamazon01-20

EM: I always recommend Franklin and Zangwill
https://www.amazon.com/dp/0805387331/?tag=pfamazon01-20
https://www.amazon.com/dp/0521896975/?tag=pfamazon01-20
These are graduate level texts but they both start from scratch. If you find these too hard,
you can always come back and try Griffiths (it's also excellent).

QM: If you know spanish, you should definitely get this one
https://www.amazon.com/dp/6071601762/?tag=pfamazon01-20
it is by far my favorite book on the subject. Other basic (and good) texts are Zettili and Saxon (Dover).
When you are done move on to Ballentine
https://www.amazon.com/dp/9810241054/?tag=pfamazon01-20

Hope this helps!


I know this is very late, but I was wondering what you thought of Kibble and Berkshire. Again, I apologise if no one can respond and this thread is uselessly bumped.
 
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Congratulations on completing the two semester calculus-based physics sequence and the three semester calculus sequence! It sounds like you have a strong foundation in both physics and mathematics. As for your next steps, it's great that you're thinking ahead and planning your studies. Here are some suggestions for your next steps:

1. Classical Mechanics: For classical mechanics, some popular choices for textbooks are Taylor's "Classical Mechanics," Morin's "Introduction to Classical Mechanics," and Goldstein's "Classical Mechanics." Each of these books has its own unique approach and level of difficulty, so I would recommend looking through them and seeing which one resonates with you the most.

2. Electrodynamics: For electrodynamics, Jackson's "Classical Electrodynamics" is considered the standard textbook at the graduate level. However, it may be a bit of a jump from Purcell and Morin. An alternative could be Griffiths' "Introduction to Electrodynamics," which is more accessible and widely used at the undergraduate level. Another option could be Zangwill's "Modern Electrodynamics," which covers both classical and modern topics in electrodynamics.

3. Quantum Mechanics: For quantum mechanics, Shankar's "Principles of Quantum Mechanics" is a popular choice at the undergraduate level. It covers the basics of quantum mechanics and is a good starting point. From there, you can move on to more advanced texts like Sakurai's "Modern Quantum Mechanics" or Merzbacher's "Quantum Mechanics."

Overall, my recommendation would be to start with the more accessible texts and gradually work your way up to the more advanced ones as you feel comfortable. It's always a good idea to have multiple resources, so don't be afraid to use different textbooks or even online resources to supplement your learning. Good luck with your studies!
 

Related to Next steps after Kleppner/Kolenkow and Purcell/Morin

1. What are some recommended resources to continue learning after studying Kleppner/Kolenkow and Purcell/Morin?

Some recommended resources include:

  • Advanced Physics textbooks: For a deeper understanding of classical mechanics and electricity and magnetism, you can refer to textbooks such as "Classical Mechanics" by Herbert Goldstein and "Electricity and Magnetism" by Edward Purcell.
  • Online courses: There are many online courses available on platforms like Coursera, edX, and Khan Academy that cover advanced topics in physics. These can be a great way to supplement your learning and gain practical skills.
  • Research papers: If you are interested in pursuing a career in physics research, reading research papers in your areas of interest can help you stay updated with the latest developments and techniques.
  • Participating in physics competitions: Competitions like the International Physics Olympiad and the International Young Physicists' Tournament can provide hands-on experience and help you apply your knowledge to real-world problems.

2. What are some common career paths for those who have studied Kleppner/Kolenkow and Purcell/Morin?

Some common career paths for those with a strong foundation in classical mechanics and electricity and magnetism include:

  • Research scientist: Many graduates of physics programs go on to pursue careers in research, either in academia or in industry. This could involve conducting experiments, analyzing data, and developing new theories.
  • Engineer: The principles of classical mechanics and electricity and magnetism are essential for many engineering fields, such as aerospace, mechanical, and electrical engineering.
  • Teacher/professor: With a deep understanding of these fundamental concepts, you can also pursue a career in teaching at the high school or college level.
  • Data analyst/scientist: The problem-solving and analytical skills gained from studying physics can also be applied to data analysis and scientific research in fields such as finance, healthcare, and technology.

3. How can I continue to improve my problem-solving skills after studying Kleppner/Kolenkow and Purcell/Morin?

Some ways to continue improving your problem-solving skills include:

  • Practice, practice, practice: The more problems you solve, the better you will become at identifying patterns and applying concepts to different scenarios.
  • Work on challenging problems: Don't just stick to standard textbook problems. Seek out more challenging problems from other sources, such as past exams or research papers.
  • Collaborate with others: Working with others can help you see problems from different perspectives and learn new problem-solving techniques.
  • Take breaks: It's important to take breaks and give your mind time to rest and process information. This can also help you approach problems with a fresh perspective.

4. Are there any specific areas of physics I should focus on after studying Kleppner/Kolenkow and Purcell/Morin?

It depends on your interests and career goals. However, some areas of physics that build upon the concepts covered in these textbooks include:

  • Quantum mechanics: This branch of physics deals with the behavior of particles at the atomic and subatomic level, and is essential for understanding the behavior of matter and energy.
  • Thermodynamics and statistical mechanics: These fields explore the behavior of matter and energy at the macroscopic level, and are important for understanding systems such as engines, refrigerators, and the universe as a whole.
  • Electromagnetism and optics: These topics cover the behavior of electric and magnetic fields and their interactions with matter. They are crucial for understanding phenomena such as light, electricity, and magnetism.
  • Astrophysics and cosmology: If you are interested in the study of the universe and its origins, these fields may be of interest to you. They involve applying physics principles to understand the behavior of celestial objects and the universe as a whole.

5. How can I apply the knowledge I gained from studying Kleppner/Kolenkow and Purcell/Morin?

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