Normalization of Bessel functions of the first kind

In summary, the conversation is about a specific mathematical equation involving Bessel functions. The main question is where to ask special functions' questions. The conversation then delves into a detailed explanation and calculations of the equation, eventually leading to a mistake in the relationship between Jv and Jv+1. The correct equation is provided at the end.
  • #1
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Before stating the main question,which section should the special functions' questions be asked?

Now consider the Bessel differential equation:

[itex]
\rho \frac{d^2}{d\rho^2}J_{\nu}(\alpha_{\nu m} \frac{\rho}{a})+\frac{d}{d\rho}J_{\nu}(\alpha_{\nu m} \frac{\rho}{a})+(\frac{\alpha_{\nu m}^2 \rho}{a^2}-\frac{\nu^2}{\rho})J_{\nu}(\alpha_{\nu m} \frac{\rho}{a})=0
[/itex]

and a similar equation but with [itex] \alpha_{\nu m} [/itex] replaced by [itex] \alpha_{\nu n} [/itex] where [itex] \alpha_{\nu s} [/itex] is the [itex]s[/itex]th root of [itex] J_{\nu}(x)[/itex].

Now if one multiplies the first equation by [itex] J_{\nu}(\alpha_{\nu n} \frac{\rho}{a})[/itex] and the second by [itex]J_{\nu}(\alpha_{\nu m} \frac{\rho}{a})[/itex] and then subtracts the second from the first,the following will be found upon integration of the whole equation from 0 to a:

[itex]
\int_0^a J_{\nu}(\alpha_{\nu n} \frac{\rho}{a})\frac{d}{d\rho}[\rho\frac{d}{d\rho}J_{\nu}(\alpha_{\nu m} \frac{\rho}{a})]d\rho-\int_0^a J_{\nu}(\alpha_{\nu m} \frac{\rho}{a})\frac{d}{d\rho}[\rho\frac{d}{d\rho}J_{\nu}(\alpha_{\nu n} \frac{\rho}{a})]d\rho=\frac{\alpha_{\nu n}^2-\alpha_{\nu m}^2}{a^2}\int_0^a J_{\nu}(\alpha_{\nu n} \frac{\rho}{a})J_{\nu}(\alpha_{\nu m} \frac{\rho}{a}) \rho d\rho
[/itex]

Integrating the LHS by part and cancelling gives:

[itex]
J_{\nu}(\alpha_{\nu n} \frac{\rho}{a})\rho\frac{d}{d\rho}J_{\nu}(\alpha_{\nu m} \frac{\rho}{a})|_0^a-J_{\nu}(\alpha_{\nu m} \frac{\rho}{a})\rho\frac{d}{d\rho}J_{\nu}(\alpha_{\nu n} \frac{\rho}{a})|_0^a=\frac{\alpha_{\nu n}^2-\alpha_{\nu m}^2}{a^2}\int_0^a J_{\nu}(\alpha_{\nu n} \frac{\rho}{a})J_{\nu}(\alpha_{\nu m} \frac{\rho}{a}) \rho d\rho
[/itex]

Using [itex] \frac{d}{dx}J_n(x)=\frac{n}{x}J_n(x)-J_{n+1}(x) [/itex]:

[itex]
J_{\nu}(\alpha_{\nu n} \frac{\rho}{a})\rho[\frac{\nu a}{\alpha_{\nu m}\rho}J_{\nu}(\alpha_{\nu m} \frac{\rho}{a})-J_{\nu+1}(\alpha_{\nu m}\frac{\rho}{a})]|_0^a-J_{\nu}(\alpha_{\nu m} \frac{\rho}{a})\rho[\frac{\nu a}{\alpha_{\nu n}\rho}J_{\nu}(\alpha_{\nu n} \frac{\rho}{a})-J_{\nu+1}(\alpha_{\nu n}\frac{\rho}{a})]|_0^a=\frac{\alpha_{\nu n}^2-\alpha_{\nu m}^2}{a^2}\int_0^a J_{\nu}(\alpha_{\nu n} \frac{\rho}{a})J_{\nu}(\alpha_{\nu m} \frac{\rho}{a}) \rho d\rho
[/itex]

After placing [itex]\alpha_{\nu n}=\alpha_{\nu m}+\varepsilon [/itex] and taking the limit as [itex] \varepsilon\rightarrow 0[/itex] and using [itex] \frac{d}{dx}J_n(x)=\frac{n}{x}J_n(x)-J_{n+1}(x) [/itex] to replace terms involving Js with [itex] \varepsilon [/itex] in their arguments and calculating the terms in the boundaries:
[itex]
-J_{\nu+1}(\alpha_{\nu m})\varepsilon[-aJ_{\nu+1}(\alpha_{\nu m})](\alpha_{\nu m})=\frac{2\alpha_{\nu m} \varepsilon}{a^2}\int_0^a J^2_{\nu}(\alpha_{\nu m} \frac{\rho}{a})\rho d\rho
[/itex]

Which gives:

[itex]
\int_0^a [J_{\nu}(\alpha_{\nu m} \frac{\rho}{a})]^2\rho d\rho=\frac{a^3}{2\alpha_{\nu m}}[J_{\nu+1}(\alpha_{\nu m})]^2
[/itex]

But the correct equation is:

[itex]
\int_0^a [J_{\nu}(\alpha_{\nu m} \frac{\rho}{a})]^2\rho d\rho=\frac{a^2}{2}[J_{\nu+1}(\alpha_{\nu m})]^2
[/itex]
(This is what you find about normalization of Bessel functions everywhere)
What's wrong in my calculations?
Thanks
 
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  • #2
Hello,

the mistake is in the relationship where you change Jv for Jv+1. The x derivate changes to (d ro / dx)(d / d ro) and (d ro / dx) = alpha / a

I was stuck ages with this too! Can't believe there wasn't a reply for 5 years!
 

1. What is the purpose of normalizing Bessel functions of the first kind?

Normalizing Bessel functions of the first kind allows for easier comparison and analysis of their values. It also simplifies certain mathematical operations, such as integration and differentiation.

2. How are Bessel functions of the first kind normalized?

Bessel functions of the first kind are normalized by dividing them by a constant factor that ensures their maximum value is equal to 1. This constant factor is different for each order of the Bessel function.

3. What is the significance of the normalization constant in Bessel functions of the first kind?

The normalization constant in Bessel functions of the first kind is important because it ensures that the functions are well-behaved and have a maximum value of 1. It also allows for easier comparison and manipulation of the functions.

4. How does the normalization of Bessel functions affect their zeros?

The normalization of Bessel functions does not affect the location of their zeros. However, it does affect the value of the function at those zeros. Normalized Bessel functions have a value of 0 at their zeros, while non-normalized functions have a value of 1.

5. Can Bessel functions of the first kind be normalized for complex arguments?

Yes, Bessel functions of the first kind can be normalized for complex arguments using the same normalization constant as their real counterparts. However, the normalization constant may need to be adjusted for certain special cases, such as when the argument is close to the origin.

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