PIPE16 vs PIPE288: Ansys v.14 Tutorial Differences

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In summary, the conversation discusses the differences between the PIPE288 and PIPE16 element types in Ansys software version 14. The user was following a tutorial for modeling a cantilever beam using PIPE16, but since their version does not support real constants for PIPE288, they had to use SECTYPE and SECDATA commands to assign values. However, their results were different from the tutorial and they are seeking assistance in understanding why. The conversation also includes a section of nodal solution results for the given problem and a link to the tutorial for more details.
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Hi,

How is PIPE288 element type different from its previous version PIPE16 (Ansys v. 14) ? I was reading a tutorial which modeled a cantilever beam with PIPE16 model using real constants to define the pipe thickness and outer thickness. But according to my software version PIPE288 does not require any real constants. So I had to assign those values using SECTYPE and SECDATA commands. The result I got was different from that of the tutorial. I would like to know why?

Thank You in advance!
 
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mechgen: I think the PIPE288 versus PIPE16 answers should be virtually the same, in most cases, unless the cantilever is quite short, or perhaps the displacement is large. If you post your real constants, and your SECDATA, then perhaps someone might be able to check whether they are equivalent. Also, if you post the entire given problem (and given answer), then someone might be able to check the answer.
 
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I am also learning the tutorials from University of Albert for this example. After defining the element type by pipe288, I defined the section in Preprocessor-Sections-Pipe-Add (details: Add pipe section with ID: 1, then Add or edit pipe section: section name: pipe1, pipe diameter: 25, wall thickness: 2). Then did everything else like the tutorial said. Finally I got almost the same result as in the tutorial.

PRINT U NODAL SOLUTION PER NODE

***** POST1 NODAL DEGREE OF FREEDOM LISTING *****

LOAD STEP= 0 SUBSTEP= 1
TIME= 1.0000 LOAD CASE= 0

THE FOLLOWING DEGREE OF FREEDOM RESULTS ARE IN THE GLOBAL COORDINATE SYSTEM

NODE UX UY UZ USUM
1 0.0000 0.0000 0.0000 0.0000
2 0.0000 -6.2066 0.0000 6.2066
3 0.0000 -0.15613E-01 0.0000 0.15613E-01
4 0.0000 -0.59714E-01 0.0000 0.59714E-01
5 0.0000 -0.13112 0.0000 0.13112
6 0.0000 -0.22863 0.0000 0.22863
7 0.0000 -0.35107 0.0000 0.35107
8 0.0000 -0.49725 0.0000 0.49725
9 0.0000 -0.66599 0.0000 0.66599
10 0.0000 -0.85609 0.0000 0.85609
11 0.0000 -1.0664 0.0000 1.0664
12 0.0000 -1.2956 0.0000 1.2956
13 0.0000 -1.5427 0.0000 1.5427
14 0.0000 -1.8064 0.0000 1.8064
15 0.0000 -2.0855 0.0000 2.0855
16 0.0000 -2.3789 0.0000 2.3789
17 0.0000 -2.6853 0.0000 2.6853
18 0.0000 -3.0036 0.0000 3.0036
19 0.0000 -3.3326 0.0000 3.3326
20 0.0000 -3.6711 0.0000 3.6711
21 0.0000 -4.0179 0.0000 4.0179
22 0.0000 -4.3718 0.0000 4.3718
23 0.0000 -4.7316 0.0000 4.7316
24 0.0000 -5.0962 0.0000 5.0962
25 0.0000 -5.4643 0.0000 5.4643
26 0.0000 -5.8349 0.0000 5.8349

MAXIMUM ABSOLUTE VALUES
NODE 0 2 0 2
VALUE 0.0000 -6.2066 0.0000 6.2066
 
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Sorry, now I know what you mean. It is like, when we use pipe288, the calculated maximum tensile stress by bending is 63.8489 MPa, but it should be 64.9 MPa, like the tutorial said. :(

The detailed description about this example can be seen here:
http://www.mece.uAlberta.ca/tutorials/ansys/BT/Bike/Bike.html

Is there anyone who can help us? Thank you very much!
 

1. What are the main differences between PIPE16 and PIPE288 elements in Ansys v.14?

The main difference between PIPE16 and PIPE288 elements is their shape and complexity. PIPE16 is a 2D element used for axisymmetric and plane strain problems, while PIPE288 is a 3D element used for general 3D problems. PIPE288 offers more accurate results for curved geometries and can handle more complex loading conditions compared to PIPE16.

2. Which element should I use for my analysis, PIPE16 or PIPE288?

The element you should use depends on the type of problem you are trying to solve. If you are working with a 2D axisymmetric or plane strain problem, PIPE16 is the appropriate choice. For 3D problems with curved geometries and complex loading conditions, PIPE288 would be a better option.

3. Can PIPE16 and PIPE288 elements be combined in the same analysis?

Yes, it is possible to use both PIPE16 and PIPE288 elements in the same analysis. You can use PIPE16 for 2D sections of your model and PIPE288 for 3D sections, as long as the elements are properly connected and meshed.

4. Are there any differences in the material properties or element behavior between PIPE16 and PIPE288?

The material properties and element behavior are the same for both PIPE16 and PIPE288 elements. The only difference is in their shape and complexity, which affects their accuracy and ability to handle certain types of problems.

5. Is there a difference in the input and output data for PIPE16 and PIPE288 elements?

The input and output data for PIPE16 and PIPE288 elements are similar, as they both use the same material properties and element behavior. However, the output data may differ in terms of accuracy and the level of detail provided, due to the differences in element shape and complexity.

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