Position & Momentum: Understanding Expectation Values

In summary, the conversation was about the expected value of an operator and how it is measured in classical mechanics. It was mentioned that for multiple operators, it can be difficult to determine their order due to the lack of commutative property. The formula for measuring <xp> was also discussed. The conversation concluded with a request for resources on how to calculate the expectation value of an operator.
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Frank Einstein
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Good morning- afternoon.

First of all, apologize for my bad English.

After reading about how the expected value of an operator <q> is what we would measure in classical mechanics and that for the case in which we have various of them it is not trivial to deduce in which order these operators go for the lack of commutative propriety. <px> is not <xp> and that the true form to measure <xp>=(1/2)< xp+px>. I haven’t found how to calculate )< xp+px>

If anyone could point me a webpage or book where that is explained, it would be a great hel for me.

Thanks.
 
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You would evaluate it as you would the expectation value of any other operator. Apply the operator to the wave function, multiply by the complex conjugate of the wave function, and integrate.
 
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is it the same thing for E and B?
 
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So would it be ∫dx Ψ* [(-iħ ∂/∂x)+(-iħ ∂/∂x)(x)] ψ = ∫dx Ψ* (-iħ ∂/∂x ψ) + ∫dx Ψ* (-iħ ∂/∂x)(x ψ) then?; with p = -iħ(∂/∂x) and position= x
 
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Frank Einstein said:
∫dx Ψ* [(-iħ ∂/∂x)+(-iħ ∂/∂x)(x)] ψ

You omitted an x in the first term (from the xp).
 
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jtbell said:
You omitted an x in the first term (from the xp).
Thanks for pinting that.
 

1. What is the concept of expectation values in position and momentum?

The concept of expectation values in position and momentum is a way to quantify the most likely outcome of a measurement for a physical quantity, based on the probability of different outcomes. In position and momentum, the expectation value is the average position or momentum of a system, calculated by taking into account all possible positions or momenta and their corresponding probabilities.

2. How are expectation values calculated in position and momentum?

In position and momentum, the expectation value is calculated using the wave function of the system, which describes the probability distribution of different positions and momenta. The expectation value is then found by integrating the product of the wave function and the position or momentum operator over all possible positions or momenta.

3. What is the significance of expectation values in position and momentum?

Expectation values in position and momentum have a significant role in quantum mechanics, as they provide a way to estimate the most likely outcome of a measurement for a physical quantity. They also help to understand the behavior of quantum systems and make predictions about their future states.

4. How do expectation values change with different wave functions?

The expectation values in position and momentum will vary depending on the specific wave function of a system. Different wave functions will have different probability distributions, resulting in different expectation values. However, the principles for calculating expectation values remain the same regardless of the wave function.

5. Can expectation values be measured in experiments?

Yes, expectation values can be measured in experiments by performing repeated measurements on a system and calculating the average value. However, it is important to note that the actual measurement may not match the expectation value exactly, as quantum measurements are subject to uncertainty and can only provide a probabilistic prediction of the outcome.

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