Property of Natural Log- Inequality equation

In summary, the conversation discusses the property of natural logarithm and how to prove it. The participants also mention using function analysis to prove the inequality.
  • #1
chetanladha
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Hi.

I just saw on wikipedia that natural logarithm has such a property:
[x/(1+x)] < ln (1 + x) < x

(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natural_logarithm)

Can anyone pls tell me how to prove this?

Proving [x/(1+x)] and ln (1 + x) less than 'x' is easy.. But how abt [x/(1+x)] < ln (1 + x) ??

Thanks in advance..
 
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  • #2
It's wrong. It's smaller or equal.

Consider the function

[tex] f:(-1,+\infty)\longrightarrow \mathbb{R} [/tex]

[tex] f(x) = \frac{x}{x+1} - \ln (1+x) [/tex]

Plot it.
 
  • #3
Following what dextercioby said, the following inequality does not always hold true.

[x/(1+x)] < ln (1 + x) < x

For example, let x = 0. We the have:

0/(1+0) < ln(1+0) < 0
0 < 0 < 0

This makes no sense.
 
  • #4
Thanks for response.

Yes its smaller or equal (Sorry couldn't rite it..)..

Is plotting the function f(x) = [x/(1+x)] - ln (1 + x) best way 2 prove it??
 
  • #5
You needn't plot it, just make the standard analysis of 1st and 2nd derivatives of f to be able to draw the desired conclusion.
 
  • #6
Thanks a lot..!
 

Related to Property of Natural Log- Inequality equation

1. What is the property of natural logarithm in an inequality equation?

The property of natural logarithm in an inequality equation states that if the base of a natural logarithm is greater than 1, the inequality symbol remains the same when taking the natural logarithm of both sides of the equation. However, if the base is less than 1, the inequality symbol must be reversed.

2. How do you solve an inequality equation involving natural logarithms?

To solve an inequality equation involving natural logarithms, you must use the property of natural logarithm mentioned above. First, isolate the natural logarithm term on one side of the equation. Then, take the natural logarithm of both sides and use the appropriate inequality symbol based on the base of the natural logarithm. Finally, solve for the variable as you would with a regular equation.

3. Can natural logarithms be negative in an inequality equation?

Yes, natural logarithms can be negative in an inequality equation. In fact, natural logarithms can be negative for any number less than 1, as the natural logarithm of a number between 0 and 1 is a negative number.

4. Can the base of a natural logarithm be a negative number in an inequality equation?

No, the base of a natural logarithm cannot be a negative number in an inequality equation. The base of a natural logarithm must be a positive number greater than 1, as the natural logarithm of a negative number or 0 is undefined.

5. Are there any special rules for solving inequality equations involving natural logarithms?

Yes, there are a few special rules to keep in mind when solving inequality equations involving natural logarithms. First, the inequality symbol must be reversed if the base of the natural logarithm is less than 1. Second, if the inequality symbol is reversed, the solution must be verified to ensure it satisfies the original inequality. Lastly, if the inequality symbol is not reversed, the solution must be verified to ensure it satisfies the original inequality as well as any restrictions on the domain of the natural logarithm function.

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