Proving a function is injective

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The discussion focuses on proving that the function f(x) = x^2 + 2x + 1, defined on the interval ]1, +inf[, is injective. The proof begins by assuming f(a) = f(b) for a, b in the specified domain, leading to the equation (a + 1)^2 = (b + 1)^2. Participants note that since a and b are both greater than 1, it simplifies to a + 1 = b + 1, thus concluding a = b. The conversation also touches on the function's strictly increasing nature, which can be understood without calculus, emphasizing that the properties of parabolas support the injectivity argument. Overall, the proof demonstrates that f is indeed injective within its defined domain.
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Homework Statement
Let f: ]1, +inf[ → ]0, +inf[ be defined by f(x)=x^2 +2x +1. Prove f is injective.
Relevant Equations
f(a) = f(b) ==> a=b
Hello,
Let f: ]1, +inf[ → ]0, +inf[ be defined by f(x)=x^2 +2x +1.

I am trying to prove f is injective.

Let a,b be in ]1, +inf[ and suppose f(a) = f(b).

Then, a^2 + 2a + 1 = b^2 + 2b + 1.

How do I solve this equation such that I end up with a = b?

Solution:

(a + 1) ^2 = (b + 1)^2

sqrt[(a+1)^2] = sqrt[(b+1)^2]

abs(a + 1) = abs(b + 1)

since a>1 and b>1

a + 1 = b +1
thus a = b

hence f is injective.

[Moderator's note: Moved from a technical forum and thus no template.]
 
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Cha0t1c said:
Hello,
Let f: ]1, +inf[ → ]0, +inf[ be defined by f(x)=x^2 +2x +1.

I am trying to prove f is injective.

Let a,b be in ]1, +inf[ and suppose f(a) = f(b).

Then, a^2 + 2a + 1 = b^2 + 2b + 1.

How do I solve this equation such that I end up with a = b?
It's a quadratic equation.
 
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PeroK said:
It's a quadratic equation.
(a+1)^2 = (b+1)^2, How did I not see that?!
 
Cha0t1c said:
(a+1)^2 = (b+1)^2, How did I not see that?!
But you're not done.
If ##(a + 1)^2 = (b + 1)^2## then ##a + 1 = \pm (b + 1)##. What more do you need to do to conclude that a = b?
 
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Mark44 said:
But you're not done.
If ##(a + 1)^2 = (b + 1)^2## then ##a + 1 = \pm (b + 1)##. What more do you need to do to conclude that a = b?
But a and b are strictly greater than 1 for all a and b since the domain is ] 1, +inf [. Doesn't it free us from this situation since b + 1 will always be greater than 0?
 
Cha0t1c said:
But a and b are strictly greater than 1 for all a and b since the domain is ] 1, +inf [. Doesn't it free us from this situation since b + 1 will always be greater than 0?

Yes, it does.
 
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If you know how to differentiate you can use that to see where the function is strictly increasing/decreasing and thus not taking the same value twice.
 
WWGD said:
If you know how to differentiate you can use that to see where the function is strictly increasing/decreasing and thus not taking the same value twice.
But the thread was posted in the Precalc section. If the thread was posted appropriately, we can't assume any prior knowledge of calculus.
 
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Mark44 said:
But the thread was posted in the Precalc section. If the thread was posted appropriately, we can't assume any prior knowledge of calculus.

Yes, but the argument still holds without calculus if you know about parabolas.
 
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Math_QED said:
Yes, but the argument still holds without calculus if you know about parabolas.
My comment was about the use of calculus techniques such as differentiation in a thread posted in the Precalc section, not about any properties of parabolas.
 
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I like the idea of looking at the increasing nature of the function (x+1)^2 on the domain [-1,inf), which is obvious even without differentiating, for this problem.
 
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