[QM] Two-Particle Systems: overlapping/non-overlapping wavefunctions

In summary, the conversation discusses concepts related to exchange forces and the square of separation distance between two particles. The speaker raises confusion about the presence of ##\langle x \rangle _{ab}## and ##\langle x \rangle _{ba}## in an equation and questions the meaning of "overlap" in this context. The response provides a visual representation of overlapping and non-overlapping wave functions and clarifies that overlap refers to particles being at the same position.
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Hi, I was reading Griffiths and stumble upon some questions. This is from 5.1.2 Exchange Forces. The section is trying to work out the square of the separation distance between two particles, $$\langle (x_1 - x_2)^2 \rangle = \langle x_1^2 \rangle + \langle x_2^2 \rangle - 2 \langle x_1 x_2 \rangle$$
My confusion came when
$$\int x_1 \psi_a (x_1)^* \psi_b (x_1) dx_1 \, \int x_2 \psi_b(x_2)^* \psi_a(x_2) dx_2 = \langle x \rangle _{ab} \langle x \rangle _{ba}$$ I don't get why there are ##\langle x \rangle _{ab}## and ##\langle x \rangle _{ba}## here , won't the $$\int x_2 \psi_b(x_2)^* \psi_a(x_2) dx_2=\int x_1 \psi_a (x_1)^* \psi_b (x_1) dx_1=0??$$ since both ##\psi_a## and ##\psi_b## are orthogonal to each other?

And in the next paragraph the text says
Notice that ##\langle x \rangle _{ab} ## vanishes unless the two wavefunctions actually overlap [if ##\psi_a(x)## is zero wherever ##\psi_b(x)## is nonzero, the integral in Equation 5.20 is zero] So if ##\psi_a## represents an electron in an atom in Chicago, and ##\psi_b## represents an electron in an atom in Seattle, it's not going to make any difference whether you antisymmetrize the wave function or not. As a practical matter, therefore, it's okay to pretend that electrons with nonoverlapping wave functions are distinguishable.
What is the meaning of "overlap" here? Based on the text given I assume it means both particles are "at the same position", i.e. ##x_1=x_2##. And how does an overlapping and non-overlapping wavefunction look like?

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This picture may answer your question "how does an overlapping and non-overlapping wavefunction look like?"
 

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This picture may answer your question "how does an overlapping and non-overlapping wavefunction look like?"
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1. What is a two-particle system in quantum mechanics?

In quantum mechanics, a two-particle system refers to a system that contains two particles, such as two electrons or two atoms. The behavior of such a system is described by the Schrödinger equation, which takes into account the wave-like nature of particles.

2. What is meant by overlapping and non-overlapping wavefunctions in a two-particle system?

In a two-particle system, the wavefunction describes the probability of finding the particles in a particular state. If the two particles are in the same region of space, their wavefunctions overlap and interfere with each other, affecting their behavior. On the other hand, if the two particles are in separate regions of space, their wavefunctions do not overlap and they behave independently.

3. How does the behavior of particles in a two-particle system change when their wavefunctions overlap?

When the wavefunctions of two particles overlap, they can no longer be treated as separate entities and their behavior becomes entangled. This means that the state of one particle is dependent on the state of the other particle, even if they are physically separated.

4. What are some examples of two-particle systems with overlapping wavefunctions?

Some examples of two-particle systems with overlapping wavefunctions include two electrons in the same atom, two atoms in a molecule, and two photons in an electromagnetic field. In these systems, the behavior of the particles is affected by their mutual interactions due to their overlapping wavefunctions.

5. How is the concept of superposition related to overlapping and non-overlapping wavefunctions in a two-particle system?

Superposition is a key concept in quantum mechanics that describes how a particle can exist in multiple states simultaneously. In a two-particle system, the overlapping of wavefunctions allows for the particles to exist in a state of superposition, where their properties are not well-defined until a measurement is made.

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