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In summary, the conversation discusses the separation of the movement of the center of mass (CM) from the degrees of freedom of a bound system. The degree of freedom of the CM is not linked to other degrees of freedom of the bound system, as long as the potential energy can be split into two parts - one dependent on the interparticle distances and the other on the CM position. This requirement also ensures that external forces act on each particle proportionally to its mass.
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Hello

If we have a system of several particles bound between them, we often separate the movement of CM from the degrees of freedom of the bound system.

Is the degree of freedom of the CM linked to other degrees of freedom of the bound system?
Equivalent questions: can we unbound (untie, unfasten, set free) the particles by giving* energy to the CM?, or vice versa, can we bound "stronger" by draining energy from the degrees of freedom to CM]?

*I don't know what verb is used instead of give; maybe "convey" would be a more specific word.

My mother language is not English, please forgive any mistake.

Thank you for your time :)

Greetings.
 
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Is the degree of freedom of the CM linked to other degrees of freedom of the bound system?

No, for some quite general assumptions, you can separate the movement of the CM from the movement of the particles relative to the CM.
 
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Hi!

Thank you for answering so quickly.

What assumptions allow separate the movement of the CM from the movement of the particles relative to the CM?

Greetings :)
 
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Essentially it is sufficient that you can split the potential energy into two parts, one that only depends on the interparticle distances, and one that depends only on the CM position. Both may also depend on time, but the interparticle potential changing with time may lead to the system becoming unbound (but still describable separating the CM coordiantes).

This is equivalent to requiring that any external forces acts on each particle with a force proportional to its mass (i.e., giving each particle the same acceleration).
 
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Hello

But... that is a tautology, isn't? [except for the detail of potential depending only on the distance and not on its derivatives]

Thank you for your time :)

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Related to Question about "bound systems"

What are bound systems?

Bound systems refer to any system or object in which the components are bound together by some form of force, such as gravity, electromagnetism, or nuclear forces.

What are some examples of bound systems?

Some examples of bound systems include atoms (bound by electromagnetic forces), planets orbiting a star (bound by gravity), and protons and neutrons in an atom's nucleus (bound by nuclear forces).

How do bound systems differ from unbound systems?

Bound systems have a net force acting on them that keeps the components together, while unbound systems have no net force and the components are free to move independently.

What are the properties of bound systems?

Bound systems have specific energy levels and are stable, meaning they tend to stay together and resist external forces that may try to pull them apart.

What is the significance of bound systems in physics?

Bound systems play a crucial role in understanding the behavior and interactions of matter in the universe. They help explain the structure of atoms, the formation of celestial bodies, and the behavior of particles at the subatomic level.

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