Question about Molten Salt Fast Reactors

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In summary, the conversation discussed the design of the Molten Salt Fast Reactor (MSFR) and the challenges of using NaCl as the carrier salt due to the presence of Cl-35. The cost of separating Cl-35 from Cl-37 may render the use of NaCl economically undesirable, and there may be a need for a fast neutron spectrum to handle Cl-based fuel systems. The links provided by the expert were helpful in understanding these issues. The conversation also highlighted the benefits of MSFR, such as its simplicity, safety, and potential use of LWR waste as fuel.
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How are two US companies designing a MSFR going to solve disposing of the isotope Cl-35? They are planing on using NaCl as the carrier salt.
This is in regards to the Molten Salt Fast Reactor ( MSFR). Two companies in the United States are designing the MSFR using NaCl as the carrier salt along with liquid fuel salt in the reactor. There is no moderator. The chlorine used in the NaCl salt must be nearly pure Cl-37. Chlorine in nature is composed of about 1/3 Cl-37, 2/3 Cl-35. Cl-35 when bombarded with neutrons becomes a Cl-36 isotope resulting in a poison to reactor criticality along with several other problems. Separating out the Cl-35 from Cl-37 is very difficult and expensive, perhaps so much so as to render the choice of NaCl as the carrier salt economically undesirable. My question is, are they planning on absorbing this enormous cost of separation or is there a way out that’s not apparent? Also why can’t they use NaF as the carrier salt instead?
 
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Summary:: How are two US companies designing a MSFR going to solve disposing of the isotope Cl-35? They are planing on using NaCl as the carrier salt.

Separating out the Cl-35 from Cl-37 is very difficult and expensive, perhaps so much so as to render the choice of NaCl as the carrier salt economically undesirable.
It's not necessarily difficult, nor very expensive (of course there is a cost, but there are trade-offs), but even so using NaCl is not the issue, but rather Cl, for which one would use a 'fast' neutron spectrum as opposed to thermal spectrum. It appears that those advocating Cl based fuel systems are considering Cl depleted in Cl-35, or conversely enriched in Cl-37.

Some discussion and considerations within these documents.
http://moltensalt.org/references/static/downloads/pdf/EIR-332.pdf
https://info.ornl.gov/sites/publications/files/Pub29596.pdf
https://www.nrc.gov/docs/ML1733/ML17331B115.pdf
 
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Thanks for responding to my questions. I reviewed your links and found them very informative and beneficial. Reactors using LiF as a coolant will have the possible problem of handling actinide waste, reactors using NaCl have the Cl-35/S-35 problem although a liquid-phase thermal-diffusion based separation process might work. Links on chlorine isotope separation by this means would be greatly appreciated.

I have a particular interest in MSFR because of its design simplicity, no contents within the reactor except the molten salt, essentially no moving parts except for pumps, no graphite moderator to replace every four years, no actinide waste, a reactor which operates at atmospheric pressure, a safety feature where a meltdown is impossible, a containment structure far less massive compared to the LWR and utilization of LWR waste as nuclear fuel. I would like to promote MSFR for the sake of humanity.
 

1. What is a Molten Salt Fast Reactor (MSFR)?

A Molten Salt Fast Reactor is a type of nuclear reactor that uses liquid fuel in the form of molten salt instead of solid fuel. It operates at high temperatures and uses fast neutrons to sustain the nuclear reaction.

2. How does a MSFR differ from traditional nuclear reactors?

Unlike traditional nuclear reactors, which use solid fuel, MSFRs use liquid fuel in the form of molten salt. This allows for better temperature control and higher efficiency. Additionally, MSFRs use fast neutrons instead of thermal neutrons, which allows for a more efficient use of fuel and the potential for using thorium as a fuel source.

3. What are the advantages of using a MSFR?

There are several advantages to using a MSFR. These include higher efficiency, better temperature control, and the potential for using thorium as a fuel source. MSFRs also produce less nuclear waste and have a lower risk of nuclear accidents due to their design.

4. What are the potential challenges of implementing MSFR technology?

One of the main challenges of implementing MSFR technology is the development of materials that can withstand the high temperatures and corrosive nature of molten salt. There are also regulatory and safety concerns that need to be addressed before MSFRs can be widely adopted.

5. What is the current status of MSFR research and development?

MSFR technology is still in the research and development phase, with several countries and organizations working on developing and testing prototypes. While there have been successful demonstrations of MSFR technology, it is not yet commercially available and further research and development is needed to address technical and regulatory challenges.

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