Real Solutions for 4x^2-40x+51=0 and 4x^2-40[x]+51=0

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In summary, the quadratic formula is a mathematical formula used to solve quadratic equations. To solve the equation 4x^2-40x+51=0, we would first identify the values of a, b, and c, and then plug them into the formula. This equation can also be solved using factoring, finding the common factors and two numbers that multiply to the constant term and add up to the middle term. It is possible for this equation to have complex solutions, but in this case it does not. This equation can have a maximum of two solutions, as it represents a parabola. It can also be solved without using the quadratic formula or factoring, but the most efficient method is to use one of these methods
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Find all real solutions for the system \(\displaystyle 4x^2-40\left\lfloor{x}\right\rfloor+51=0\).
 
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anemone said:
Find all real solutions for the system \(\displaystyle 4x^2-40\left\lfloor{x}\right\rfloor+51=0\).

First $4x^2+ 51$ is positive. So x has to be positive else the sum is positive
we have $4x^2 - 40 \lfloor x \rfloor + 51 = 0$ => $4x^2 - 40 x + 51 <= 0$ equal only when x is integer and $4(x+1)^2 - 40 x + 51 >0$
$4x^2- 40 x + 51 < 0$
$=> 2(x-5)^2 < 49$
or $=> (x-5) < 3.5$
$=> x < 8.5$
$4(x+1)^2 - 40 x + 51 >0$
$=>4x^2 - 32 x + 55 >0$
$=>4(x - 4)^2 >9$
$=>x > 6.25$
So we seek solution for $\lfloor x \rfloor$ = 6 or 7 or 8
for $6 , 4x^2 = 240-51 = 189$ A solution
for $7, 4x^2 = 229$ A solution
for $8, 4x^2 = 269$ A solution
so solutions are $\frac{\sqrt{189}}{2},\frac{\sqrt{229}}{2}, \frac{\sqrt{269}}{2}$
 
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Hi kaliprasad,

Nice try but the solutions aren't complete...:(
 
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anemone said:
Hi kaliprasad,

Nice try but the solutions aren't complete...:(

you are right. my mistake

Forgot the solution to the left

$4(x-4)^2 > 9$ also gives $x < 2.5$
$2(x-5)^2 <49$ give $x > 1.5$
so take $\lfloor x\rfloor =2$ to get $4x^2 = 29$ which gives another solution $\frac{\sqrt{29}}{2}$
 
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anemone said:
Find all real solutions for the system \(\displaystyle 4x^2-40\left\lfloor{x}\right\rfloor+51=0\).

As noted by kaliprasad, $x$ is positive.

If $m=\lfloor x\rfloor$ then $x=m+c$ for some $0\le c<1$, so we have

\(\displaystyle 4(m+c)^2-40m+51=0\)

\(\displaystyle 4m^2+8mc+4c^2-40m+51=0\implies4m^2-40m+51=-8mc-4c^2\)

As $m$ and $c$ are both positive, all possible $m$ are integers between the zeros of $4m^2-40m+51=0$.

This gives $m=2,3,4,5,6,7,8$ to check, so we have

$4x^2=29$
$4x^2=69$
$4x^2=109$
$4x^2=149$
$4x^2=189$
$4x^2=229$
$4x^2=269$

Solving the above equations for $x$ and substituting into the original equation we find solutions at

\(\displaystyle x\in\left\{\dfrac{\sqrt{29}}{2},\dfrac{\sqrt{189}}{2},\dfrac{\sqrt{229}}{2},\dfrac{\sqrt{269}}{2}\right\}\)
 
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Good job to both of you! And thanks for participating!:cool:
 

Related to Real Solutions for 4x^2-40x+51=0 and 4x^2-40[x]+51=0

1. What is the quadratic formula and how is it used to solve this equation?

The quadratic formula is a mathematical formula used to solve quadratic equations. It is written as x = (-b ± √(b^2 - 4ac)) / 2a, where a, b, and c are the coefficients of the quadratic equation in the form ax^2 + bx + c = 0. To solve the equation 4x^2-40x+51=0 using the quadratic formula, we would first identify the values of a, b, and c. In this case, a = 4, b = -40, and c = 51. Then, we would plug these values into the formula and solve for x. The resulting solutions are the roots of the equation.

2. Can this equation be solved using factoring?

Yes, this equation can be solved using factoring. To factor the equation 4x^2-40x+51=0, we would first look for common factors among the coefficients. In this case, all three coefficients are divisible by 1, so we can factor out a 1. Then, we would look for two numbers that multiply to give the constant term (51) and add up to give the coefficient of the middle term (-40). In this case, those numbers are -3 and -17. So, the equation can be factored as (x-3)(4x-17) = 0. This means that x = 3 or x = 17/4 are solutions to the equation.

3. Is it possible for this equation to have complex solutions?

Yes, it is possible for this equation to have complex solutions. Complex solutions occur when the discriminant (b^2 - 4ac) of the quadratic formula is negative. In this equation, the discriminant is (-40)^2 - 4(4)(51) = 1600 - 816 = 784, which is positive. Therefore, this equation does not have complex solutions.

4. Can this equation have more than two solutions?

No, this equation can have a maximum of two solutions. This is because it is a quadratic equation, which means it has the form ax^2 + bx + c = 0. A quadratic equation can have at most two solutions because it represents a parabola, which has two intersecting points with the x-axis. In the case of 4x^2-40x+51=0, we have already determined that there are two solutions, x = 3 and x = 17/4.

5. Can this equation be solved without using the quadratic formula or factoring?

Yes, this equation can be solved without using the quadratic formula or factoring. One method is to graph the equation and find the x-intercepts, which represent the solutions to the equation. Another method is to use the method of completing the square, where we manipulate the equation to get it in the form (x + p)^2 = q. However, the most efficient and accurate method for solving this equation would be to use the quadratic formula or factoring.

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