Relativistic Physics: Gravitational & Inertial Mass

In summary, in relativity, there is no gravitational mass, only inertial mass. Gravitational mass is only a derivation of inertial mass.
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In Newtonian mechanics, both gravitational mass and inertial mass is m. This principle is known as the principle of equivalence. However, I heard that in Relativity, gravitational mass is γm instead of m because total energy of the particle is γmc2. But in special relativity, it is widely known that F=γ3ma while a is acceleration. Does that means inertial mass and gravitational mass is different in general and only approximately same at non-relativistic situation? Or is inertial mass also γm? Or is the answer totally different?
 
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Lee Sung Bin said:
However, I heard that in Relativity, gravitational mass is γm instead of m because total energy of the particle is γmc2.
"I heard that" is not a valid reference. Where did you hear that? How are we supposed to examine a reference that we have not been given? Either way, what you "heard" is not correct.

Lee Sung Bin said:
But in special relativity, it is widely known that F=γ3ma while a is acceleration.
Again, where did you get this information? It is not generally correct so any inference you take from it is not going to be correct.

See also https://www.physicsforums.com/insights/what-is-relativistic-mass-and-why-it-is-not-used-much/
 
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Lee Sung Bin said:
However, I heard that in Relativity, gravitational mass is γm
Where did you hear this? There is no such thing as "gravitational mass" in relativity, except in the sense that one can derive approximations like Newtonian gravity.

The source term in relativity is the stress-energy tensor, which does not include a ##\gamma m## term. Test objects follow geodesics determined by the geometry of spacetime; their own mass does not enter into it. In other words, gravity is not a force, so relativistic force equations aren't relevant.
 
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Lee Sung Bin said:
I heard that in Relativity, gravitational mass is γm
No, most definitely not. Whatever source you heard this from is wrong and you should discard it entirely or treat everything it says with extreme skepticism.
 
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Orodruin said:
what you "heard" is not correct.
Dale said:
No, most definitely not. Whatever source you heard this from is wrong and you should discard it entirely or treat everything it says with extreme skepticism.
If gravitational mass is not γm, then what is? Or is there no gravitational mass in relativity?
 
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Lee Sung Bin said:
If gravitational mass is not γm, then what is? Or is there no gravitational mass in relativity?
The source of gravitation in General Relativity is the Stress-Energy Tensor.
 
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Lee Sung Bin said:
r is there no gravitational mass in relativity?

Look up:

Ibix said:
There is no such thing as "gravitational mass" in relativity
 
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Lee Sung Bin said:
If gravitational mass is not γm, then what is? Or is there no gravitational mass in relativity?
There is no active gravitational mass, the source of gravity in GR is the stress energy tensor. Sometimes people also talk about passive gravitational mass, but the concept doesn’t work in GR since gravity is not a force.
 
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... But in special relativity, it is widely known that F=γ3ma while a is acceleration.

FYI, that equation only holds if the force vector is parallel (or antiparallel) with the object's velocity vector.
 
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Lee Sung Bin said:
But in special relativity, it is widely known that F=γ3ma while a is acceleration.

Just to add a bit to what @SiennaTheGr8 said, ##\gamma^3 m## was called the longitudinal mass. Likewise, and for the same reason, ##\gamma m## was called the transverse mass. It really is better to abandon any hope of finding a proportionality constant between ##\vec{F}## and ##\vec{a}##, especially because those two vectors don't generally have the same direction!

It is much better to speak of only one kind of mass ##m##, and realize that the departures from ##\vec{F}=m \vec{a}## are not due to some error in the way ##m## is defined, but instead are due to the geometry of spacetime.
 
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1. What is the difference between gravitational and inertial mass?

Gravitational mass is a measure of the mass of an object that determines the strength of its gravitational pull on other objects. Inertial mass, on the other hand, is a measure of an object's resistance to acceleration. While these two concepts are related, they are not exactly the same.

2. How does Einstein's Theory of Relativity relate to gravitational and inertial mass?

Einstein's Theory of Relativity explains that gravitational and inertial mass are equivalent, meaning they have the same effect on an object's motion. This is known as the Equivalence Principle, which is a key component of the theory.

3. Can gravitational mass be negative?

No, gravitational mass cannot be negative. It is always a positive value, as it is a measure of an object's mass and not its direction of motion.

4. How does the presence of a massive object affect the space around it?

The presence of a massive object, such as a planet or star, causes a curvature in the fabric of space-time. This curvature is what we experience as gravity, and it affects the motion of other objects in the vicinity.

5. How is the concept of mass-energy equivalence related to gravitational and inertial mass?

The concept of mass-energy equivalence, embodied in Einstein's famous equation E=mc^2, states that mass and energy are interchangeable and can be converted into one another. This means that an object's gravitational and inertial mass are both forms of its energy and can be converted into each other.

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