I agree that this is the logical conclusion, but is there evidence?Astronuc said:
You mean other than the fact that they tried before?Vanadium 50 said:
AND the fact that Putin has made it clear that he wants his opponents dead and has had several of them murdered? He likely didn't even have to give a specific order to have Navalny killed in prison.fresh_42 said:
A commentator here said: "He was kept under circumstances under which a healthy person would have struggled to survive."phinds said:
Probably just food poisoning.phinds said:
Sorry, but this is a contradiction in itself.Greg Bernhardt said:
There should be a different word for this. Murder is too personal, simplistic and law-bound for this kind of deed regularly done in dictatorships.Astronuc said:
Probably too risky in case someone decides to allow an autopsy. The Russian winter in a Russian gulag did the job for nothing.russ_watters said:
Maybe that was my point... this thread is likely not long for this worldfresh_42 said:
I'm sure there is. Is it available to an objective entity? Most likely not.Vanadium 50 said:
I'm using the legal term, which is conventionally and universally understood to mean, 'unjustified or illegal, or otherwise, 'unlawful and premeditated' homicide'.Rive said:
There is actually a good reason to close it before anybody says something that might bring them into trouble in case they want or have to travel to Russia for professional reasons.Greg Bernhardt said:
... especially with the many assassinations of Russians on British and German ground in mind. Proof? A German court hasn't had any doubt. That is more than I can ever quote from the internet.PeroK said:
Or walking, he died following a walk. That's pretty reckless behaviour.russ_watters said:
Where it falls short is, that the kind of ... mistreatment? deprival of means to live? - is exactly approved/supported by the local usage of legal system ...Astronuc said:
Claims are he spent 280 days in isolation up to his death.Rive said:Where it falls short is, that the kind of ... mistreatment? deprival of means to live? - is exactly approved/supported by the local usage of legal system ...
That would have probably not saved him.fresh_42 said:
Source:
It would at least have been a lot easier to protect him.Sagittarius A-Star said:
Yes. In 2020 he was protected by the German BKA, while he was in hospital in Germany.fresh_42 said:
And after that, he made in 2020 an interesting telephone call.pinball1970 said:
Source (i.e. at 11m20s):
"Trotsky/i was blanked/assassinated/icepicked/rockpicked...?" He got Trotskied, perhaps? No question who ordered it; one might offer the term "Beria'd" to keep with the spirit, if not the sense/feeling of the event.Rive said:
Not repellent enough.Frabjous said:
Yes, that's exactly what I am asking.fresh_42 said:
Putin is an old Большевики and probably did what they always did: let the Russian winter and the ГУЛаг do the job. I assume that Новичо́к (##LD_{50}=1\,mg##) has set the stage for them to work.Vanadium 50 said:
Just some help with the use of foreign language:fresh_42 said:
If there is evidence I don't think it will be available. If everything I read on wiki regarding the last couple of years of his life is close to accurate, then he could have actually died following a walk in that place. I made a flippant comment about that but it was intended as sarcasm, as people as a rule do not die at 47 from walking.Vanadium 50 said: