Simplifying a trigonometry expression

I am missing something... You're missing a lot. You have a sec x and a 1. It's also a 1, not -1.I apologize. I see what you are saying now. The problem was literally staring me in the face and I didn't see it. I was trying to get the problem into a form that is recognizable as a trig function.sec x - cos2 x (sec x tan2 x - sec x tan x)sec x - cos x tan2 x + cos x tan xsec x - cos x tan2 x + sin xsec x - cos x (sec x sec x) + sin xsec x - cos x (sec2 x) +
  • #1
mileena
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Homework Statement



Simplify:

[(sec x)(sec2 x) - (tan x - 1)(sec x tan x)] /
sec2 x


Homework Equations



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The Attempt at a Solution



[(sec x)(sec2 x) - (tan x - 1)(sec x tan x)] /
sec2 x

[(sec x)(sec2 x) - tan x (1 -1) sec x ] /
sec2 x

[(sec x)(sec2 x) - 0 ] /
sec2 x

sec x

Thanks! I hope the above is correct, but it probably isn't.
 
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  • #2
mileena said:
[(sec x)(sec2 x) - (tan x - 1)(sec x tan x)] /
sec2 x

[(sec x)(sec2 x) - tan x (1 -1) sec x ] /
sec2 x

That step is wrong. You've dropped a tan x. Try it again.
But I would start by getting rid of the denominator. What is another way of expressing 1/sec(θ)?
 
  • #3
mileena said:

Homework Statement



Simplify:

[(sec x)(sec2 x) - (tan x - 1)(sec x tan x)] /
sec2 x
So
[tex]\frac{sec(x)(sec^2(x))- (tan(x)- 1)(sec(x)tan(x))}{sec^2(x)}[/tex]?

Is there any particular reason for writing "[itex]sec(x)sec^2(x)[/itex]" rather than [itex]sec^3(x)[/itex]?

Homework Equations



none

The Attempt at a Solution



[(sec x)(sec2 x) - (tan x - 1)(sec x tan x)] /
sec2 x

[(sec x)(sec2 x) - tan x (1 -1) sec x ] /
Where did that "(1- 1)" come from?
sec2 x

[(sec x)(sec2 x) - 0 ] /
sec2 x

sec x

Thanks! I hope the above is correct, but it probably isn't.[/QUOTE]
It's easy to check that it is NOT correct. If x= 30 degrees ([itex]\pi/6[/itex] radians), the original expression is [itex](2/3)\sqrt{3}+ 2/3[/itex] while sec(x) is [itex](2/3)\sqrt{3}[/itex].
 
  • #4
mileena said:

Homework Statement



Simplify:

[(sec x)(sec2 x) - (tan x - 1)(sec x tan x)] /
sec2 x
So
[tex]\frac{sec(x)(sec^2(x))- (tan(x)- 1)(sec(x)tan(x))}{sec^2(x)}[/tex]?

Is there any particular reason for writing "[itex]sec(x)sec^2(x)[/itex]" rather than [itex]sec^3(x)[/itex]?

Homework Equations



none

The Attempt at a Solution



[(sec x)(sec2 x) - (tan x - 1)(sec x tan x)] /
sec2 x

[(sec x)(sec2 x) - tan x (1 -1) sec x ] /
Where did that "(1- 1)" come from?

sec2 x

[(sec x)(sec2 x) - 0 ] /
sec2 x

sec x

Thanks! I hope the above is correct, but it probably isn't.
It's easy to check that it is NOT correct. If x= 30 degrees ([itex]\pi/6[/itex] radians), the original expression is [itex](2/3)\sqrt{3}+ 2/3[/itex] while sec(x) is [itex](2/3)\sqrt{3}[/itex].
 
  • #5
haruspex said:
That step is wrong. You've dropped a tan x. Try it again.
But I would start by getting rid of the denominator. What is another way of expressing 1/sec(θ)?

Thanks haruspex, and sorry for my late reply. I have a hard time getting online in the evenings.

cos x = 1/sec x

So:

[(sec x)(sec2 x) - (tan x - 1)(sec x tan x)] /
sec2 x

[(sec x)(sec2 x) - (tan x - 1)(sec x tan x)] /
[(sec x)(sec x)]

(cos x)(cos x) [(sec x)(sec2 x) - (tan x - 1)(sec x tan x)]

cos2 x [sec3 x - (sec2 x tan x - sec x tan x)]

[sec3 x/sec2 x] - [[(sec x)(tan2 x - tan x)]/sec2 x]

sec x - [[(tan2 x - tan x)]/sec x]

sec x - [cos x[(tan2 x - tan x)]]

That's it. I don't know how to reduce this more.
 
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  • #6
mileena said:
Thanks haruspex, and sorry for my late reply. I have a hard time getting online in the evenings.
1 - [[(tan2 x - tan x)]/sec2 x]
That's it. I don't know how to reduce this more.
maybe you can simplify it this way:

[itex]1-\left(\frac{\tan^2(x)-\tan(x)}{1+\tan^2(x)}\right)[/itex]

[itex]\frac{1+\tan^2(x)-\tan^2(x)+\tan(x)}{1+\tan^2(x)}=\frac{1+\tan(x)}{1+\tan^2(x)}[/itex]
 
  • #7
HallsofIvy said:
So
[tex]\frac{sec(x)(sec^2(x))- (tan(x)- 1)(sec(x)tan(x))}{sec^2(x)}[/tex]?

Is there any particular reason for writing "[itex]sec(x)sec^2(x)[/itex]" rather than [itex]sec^3(x)[/itex]?

Thanks for your reply HallsofIvy!

That is the way the problem was presented to me on the homework!

HallsofIvy said:
Where did that "(1- 1)" come from?

I tried to distribute the tan x out of both factors!
 
  • #8
mileena said:
(cos x)(cos x) [(sec x)(sec2 x) - (tan x - 1)(sec x tan x)]

cos2 x [sec3 x - (sec2 x tan x - sec x tan x)]
There's a mistake in how you multiplied out the (tan x - 1)(sec x tan x) term.
[sec3 x/sec2 x] - [[(sec x)(tan2 x - tan x)]/sec2 x]
Why flip back to dividing by sec x again? You can use sec x * cos x = 1 without having to turn it back into a division.
 
  • #9
Ok, I decided to redo the problem. Part of my problem is it's hard to check the work on here because I can't write fractions they way they are supposed to be written without complex computer operations.

Thank you harupex for the tip: sec x * cos x = 1

I knew they were inverses, but it didn't dawn on me to use that equation!

[(sec x)(sec2 x) - (tan x - 1)(sec x tan x)]
/
sec2 x

cos2 x [(sec3 x) - (tan x - 1) (sec x tan x)]

sec x - cos2 x (sec x tan2 x - sec x tan x)

sec x - (cos x tan2 x + cos x tan x)

sec x - [(cos x tan x)(tan x + 1)]
 
  • #10
janhaa said:
maybe you can simplify it this way:

[itex]1-\left(\frac{\tan^2(x)-\tan(x)}{1+\tan^2(x)}\right)[/itex]

[itex]\frac{1+\tan^2(x)-\tan^2(x)+\tan(x)}{1+\tan^2(x)}=\frac{1+\tan(x)}{1+\tan^2(x)}[/itex]

Thanks janhaa! I am not sure what you did though to get rid of the initial "1 -".
 
  • #11
mileena said:
sec x - cos2 x (sec x tan2 x - sec x tan x)

sec x - (cos x tan2 x + cos x tan x)
There's a sign error in that step.
What does cos x tan x simplify to?
Do you know sec2 = 1 + tan2 ? (Can derive this easily from cos2+sin2=1.)
 
  • #12
Ok, I see my error. I become very flustered with trig for some reason. I guess I get anxious when the pressure is on.

Ok, since tan x = sin x/cos x,
cos x tan x reduces to just sin x.

Here it is corrected:

sec x - cos2 x (sec x tan2 x - sec x tan x)

sec x - cos x tan2 x + cos x tan x

sec x - cos x tan2 x + sin x

And yes, I know that sec2 = 1 + tan2 is one of the three Pythagorean identities, but I don't see any sec2 or 1's above.
 
  • #13
mileena said:
sec x - cos x tan2 x + sin x
I don't see any sec2 or 1's above.
No, but there's a tan2.
 
  • #14
Oh my gosh. I think I have it!

sec x - cos x tan2 x + sin x

sec x - cos x (sec2 x -1) + sin x

sec x - cos x sec2 x - cos x + sin x

sec x -sec x - cos x + sin x

sin x - cos x


I hope it's that easy.

For some reason, I am not seeing all the basic trigonometric equivalents.
 

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