Spiritual evolution of mankind

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In summary, the conversation discusses the works of philosopher Olaf Stapledon and the evolution of life in the universe over a vast time span. The question is raised whether humanity has grown spiritually and become less warlike and selfish, or if these traits are still ingrained in us. The conversation also touches on the concept of the 'spiritual' and its role in human society. Overall, there is a debate on whether there is a higher plan or purpose for humanity, or if we are simply an emergent artifact of nature.
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Philosopher Olaf Stapledon wrote Starmaker and the First and Last Men; supposed to be the best of the best in science fiction or future history according to some authorities. The books cover a time span of a gazillion supereons in the evolution of life in the universe. Planets are born and die. Intelligent life develops as water and plant forms as well as mankind, then passes away and develops into other forms with different minds. I wonder if in our entire history we have grown spiritually at all or if we have not and are still just as warlike, egocentric, greedy and selfish as we were way back. You can see adults on any day acting like children; showing greed, jelousy and anger when someone has something better than they do. Will we be better and kinder 10,000 years from now? Or is spiritual or growth in kindness even part of the plan? Maybe what we see is all it's meant to be. Any opinions? Any further reading?
 
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What plan? To quote the immortal Frank Zappa, "You are what you is, and that's all it tis."Nature is not kind;
It treats all things impartially.
The Sage is not kind,
And treats all people impartially.
Nature is like a bellows,
Empty, yet never ceasing its supply.
The more it moves, the more it yields;
So the sage draws upon experience
And cannot be exhausted.
Lao Tzu

You either trust who and what you are or you don't. If you don't, sucks to be you.
 
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Tregg Smith said:
Philosopher Olaf Stapledon wrote Starmaker and the First and Last Men; supposed to be the best of the best in science fiction or future history according to some authorities. The books cover a time span of a gazillion supereons in the evolution of life in the universe. Planets are born and die. Intelligent life develops as water and plant forms as well as mankind, then passes away and develops into other forms with different minds. I wonder if in our entire history we have grown spiritually at all or if we have not and are still just as warlike, egocentric, greedy and selfish as we were way back. You can see adults on any day acting like children; showing greed, jelousy and anger when someone has something better than they do. Will we be better and kinder 10,000 years from now? Or is spiritual or growth in kindness even part of the plan? Maybe what we see is all it's meant to be. Any opinions? Any further reading?

We have mutually agreed upon laws that, at least most of the time, protect us from being killed. This increases our lifespan and our quality of life and has raised our standard of living.

A larger and larger portion of the world's population can now be assured of shelter, food, a livelihood, protection under the law and freedom in the pursuit of happiness.

This was not a gift from elsewhere. We built it for ourselves because it's the world we wanted.
 
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Tregg Smith said:
... is spiritual or growth in kindness even part of the plan?
Imo, no. We're an emergent artifact or byproduct of a fundamental wave dynamic(s). Nature is indifferent to our apprehension of things. Wrt nature there's no kindness and meanness, no good and evil. The 'spiritual' is an invention of humankind. It comforts us in our ignorance, and provides an unchallengable basis for social directives.
 
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ThomasT said:
... is spiritual or growth in kindness even part of the plan?
Imo, no. We're an emergent artifact or byproduct of a fundamental wave dynamic(s). Nature is indifferent to our apprehension of things. Wrt nature there's no kindness and meanness, no good and evil. The 'spiritual' is an invention of humankind. It comforts us in our ignorance, and provides an unchallengable basis for social directives.

I think you've missed the point. Allow me to clarify:

... is spiritual or growth in kindness even part of our plan?
 
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This does not meet the philosophy guidelines.
 

1. What is spiritual evolution?

Spiritual evolution is the process of growth and development of an individual or collective consciousness towards a higher level of awareness and understanding. It involves the expansion of one's spiritual beliefs, values, and practices to align with a deeper understanding of the self and the universe.

2. How does spiritual evolution relate to mankind?

Spiritual evolution is closely intertwined with the evolution of mankind as it involves the development of consciousness and awareness in individuals and society as a whole. As humanity evolves spiritually, we become more connected to our true essence and the world around us, leading to a more harmonious existence.

3. What are some signs of spiritual evolution in individuals?

Some signs of spiritual evolution include increased self-awareness, a deepening sense of empathy and compassion, a greater sense of purpose and meaning in life, and a more open-minded and non-judgmental perspective.

4. Can spiritual evolution be measured or quantified?

As a scientist, it is important to note that spiritual evolution cannot be measured or quantified in a traditional scientific sense. However, its effects can be observed and studied through changes in behavior, attitudes, and beliefs in individuals and society as a whole.

5. How can one actively participate in their own spiritual evolution?

There are various ways to actively participate in one's spiritual evolution, such as meditation, mindfulness practices, self-reflection, and seeking out new experiences and perspectives. It is also important to cultivate a sense of curiosity, openness, and self-awareness on the journey towards spiritual growth and evolution.

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