Struggling to find solution to 1D wave equation in the following form:

In summary: If you are able to write the equations in terms of the real and imaginary parts, it might be easier to see the similarities/differences.In summary, you should know a relationship between e^ix and trig functions of x.
  • #1
Ibidy
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Homework Statement
Seperate 1D wave equation into time dependent and indipendent form and show solution takes the following trig form.
Relevant Equations
1D wave equaiton
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  • #2
You should know a relationship between ##e^{ix}## and trig functions of x.
 
  • #3
haruspex said:
You should know a relationship between ##e^{ix}## and trig functions of x.
I tried using eulers identity but i just end up with a mess of complex and none complex trig functions rather than what they want.
 
  • #4
You want a real value for [itex]T(t) = C_1e^{i\lambda ct} + C_2e^{-i\lambda ct}[/itex]. So [itex]C_1 = A + iB[/itex] and [itex]C_2[/itex] must be complex conjugates. Try expanding [tex]
(A + iB)(\cos \lambda ct + i\sin \lambda ct) + (A - iB)(\cos \lambda ct - i\sin \lambda ct)[/tex] and see what you get.
 
  • #5
Im not quite sure how or what you did but its closer to anything i was able to find.
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Can i ask what you did?
 
  • #6
In your solution in post #1, A, B, C and D can be complex, but you know that T and ##\phi## are real. That should allow you to establish some relationships between your constants.
 
  • #7
Ibidy said:
I tried using eulers identity but i just end up with a mess of complex and none complex trig functions rather than what they want.
Perhaps your difficulty lies in writing the same symbols for constants that are different. Equation (15) is
##T(t)=A\sin(c\lambda t)+B\cos(c\lambda t).## You chose to write the general solution you derived as ##T(t)=Ae^{i\lambda ct}+Be^{-i\lambda ct}.## Why did you assign ##A## to the positive exponential and ##B## to the negative instead of the other way around? You could also have chosen linear combinations of ##A## and ##B## in front of each exponential and you would still have a solution. Constants ##A## and ##B## in equation (15) do not have the same meaning as your ##A## and ##B##. The same is also true for ##C## and ##D##.

If I were you, I would write my general solution as ##T(t)=A'e^{i\lambda ct}+B'e^{-i\lambda ct}## and then find a relation between the primed and unprimed constants. Start with equation (15) and observe that $$\cos \!x=\frac{e^{ix}+e^{-ix}}{2}~;~~\sin \!x=\frac{e^{ix}-e^{-ix}}{2i}=-i\frac{e^{ix}-e^{-ix}}{2}.$$Then gather like exponential terms. It's not that much of a mess.
 
  • #8
You can avoid complex numbers altogether
if you recognize that sine and cosine are solutions
of the separated 2nd-order ordinary differential equations,
since they are [also] functions that are proportional to minus-their-second-derivative
(as verified by substitution).

Otherwise, as @kuruman has noted,
you will have to work with generally distinct complex coefficients
between the different forms of the general solution.
 
  • #9
kuruman said:
Perhaps your difficulty lies in writing the same symbols for constants that are different.
I think it more likely that @Ibidy understands that the two sets of A, B, C, D are different, but has missed that in general they are complex. Without that, it is not possible to transmute the one set into the other.
 

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1. What is the 1D wave equation?

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