Thoughts about coupled harmonic oscillator system

In summary, Hooke's law only applies in a linear region of strain and is an idealized approximation that may not hold true for complex structures. Coupled harmonic oscillator systems, such as a bar pendulum, may have regions where Hooke's law works and others where it doesn't, and the coupling mechanism may affect the behavior of the system. Overall, Hooke's law is best used as an approximation and may need to be verified for each specific situation.
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In my physics lab,while mesuring the spring constant of a spiral spring,we were instructed to vibrate it in such a way that it only oscillates vertically.That means,suppose the spring vibrates along the 'y' axis,so it can't have any x or z component of oscillation.In simple term,it can't form a coupled harmonic osccilator system.
Same instruction was given while finding value of 'g' by a bar pendulum.
In the former case,does the spring obeys hooke's law while it forms a coupled harmonic oscillator system?Does the bar pendulum somehow breaks the simple harmonic motion(such that we can't apply the law for sumple harmonic motion)?
 
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does the spring obeys hooke's law while it forms a coupled harmonic oscillator system?
Sort of, yes.

So for clarity let's say you have two oscillating modes an axial mode and a single transverse mode (like p-waves and s-waves in earthquakes) in a simple bar of steel.

Hooke's law only applies in a linear region of strain (think of any very small region of your steel spring) where the material can stretch in one direction, let's say ##\hat{z}##, without a significant change in the spring constant either in that direction or in other orthogonal directions, like ##\hat{x}##. In this case the two oscillating modes can be viewed as uncoupled, they proceed to move in time independent of each other. If you hit it the right way you can excite either or both modes. But after that they will be essentially independent.

This is sort of by definition. Hooke's law applies when Hooke's law applies. If you stretch a spring too far, you can't use it anymore. How do you know what "too far" is? That's when Hooke's law doesn't work anymore. It's an idealized approximation which is simple and often true. But IRL you need to verify that it actually works that way.

But, you asked about coupled modes, where energy can move between modes. This requires some coupling mechanism which isn't defined, so I don't know what the effects are.

Complex structures may have some regions where Hooke's law works and others where it doesn't, it's best to think of this as an approximation of how a small region responds to stress and then figure out how that relates to the whole structure.

The structure may also create coupling between the modes. So, for example if you stretch a coil spring the entire structure will exhibit strain in tension (stretching) and torsion (twisting) because of the way it's constructed in relation to the stress direction you apply. But if you zoom into a small area inside the spring there will be only one strain direction which is a combination of the global tension and torsion directions. A solid metal bar won't couple global tension stress into a torsional strain because it is constructed differently. A tiny section of the coil spring can be viewed as a straight bar which is being pulled off-axis by the neighboring tiny sections it's attached to.
 
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1. What is a coupled harmonic oscillator system?

A coupled harmonic oscillator system is a physical system composed of two or more harmonic oscillators that are connected or coupled in some way. This means that the motion of one oscillator affects the motion of the other oscillator(s).

2. What are some examples of coupled harmonic oscillator systems?

Examples of coupled harmonic oscillator systems include a double pendulum, two masses connected by a spring, and two atoms connected by a chemical bond.

3. How does the behavior of a coupled harmonic oscillator system differ from that of a single harmonic oscillator?

The behavior of a coupled harmonic oscillator system is more complex than that of a single harmonic oscillator because the motion of one oscillator affects the motion of the other oscillator(s). This can result in more complicated patterns of motion, such as beats and phase locking.

4. How can coupled harmonic oscillator systems be used in scientific research?

Coupled harmonic oscillator systems are used in various fields of science, such as physics, chemistry, and biology, to study and understand complex systems and phenomena. They can also be used to model and simulate real-world systems, such as molecular vibrations and chemical reactions.

5. What are some potential applications of coupled harmonic oscillator systems?

Coupled harmonic oscillator systems have a wide range of potential applications, including in engineering, materials science, and medicine. They can be used to design and optimize devices, study the behavior of materials, and understand biological systems, such as the human body.

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