Uncertainty in measurements of the thickness of a pile of pellets

In summary, the conversation discusses the measurement of HDPE pellets and how to calculate the uncertainty for n pellets. The suggested method is to measure the total volume and assume spherical pellets to get an estimate for the average diameter with only one uncertainty. The formula for calculating uncertainty using the propagation of errors is also mentioned.
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TL;DNR: how to measure an uncertainty for the thickness of a pile of pellets?
Howdie!

We have been playing around with melting and molding HDPE pellets recently. After that, we measured their diameter and thickiness 5 times each to get an uncertainty. In our experiments we put one pellet between gamma-source and detector and measure its attenuation. After that we place the next pellet on top of the previous and carry out the same measurements. And so on.

My question is:
If each pellet had thickness d with uncertainty delta_d, then how would I calculate the uncertainty for n pellets?

Would it be a square root of the sum of uncertainty squares or sth trickier? Thank you in advance!
 
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That depends how you define "uncertainty " and what you assume about the distribution of thickness for each pellet. In theory, you probably need to combine normal distributions.
 
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How about measuring the total volume, by putting them under water and measuring the displacement. Then divide by the number of pellets N and assume spherical. Then you'll get an estimate for the average diameter with only one uncertainty to deal with instead of N independent uncertainties.
 
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If each pellet has a thickness ##d## and if you have some function ##f(d)##, then the uncertainty in ##f## is related to the uncertainty in ## d## by the propagation of errors formula: $$\sigma_f^2 = \left( \frac{\partial f}{\partial d}\right)^2 \sigma_d^2$$

So you just write down ##f(d)##, take the partial derivative, square that, and multiply by the variance in ##d## and that gives you the variance in ##f##.
 

1. What is the definition of uncertainty in measurements?

Uncertainty in measurements refers to the degree of doubt or error associated with a particular measurement. It is a measure of the range of possible values that a measurement may fall within, due to limitations in the measurement tools or techniques used.

2. How is uncertainty calculated in measurements?

Uncertainty is typically calculated by taking into account the precision and accuracy of the measurement instrument, as well as any external factors that may affect the measurement. This can be done using statistical methods, such as calculating the standard deviation or confidence intervals.

3. What factors can contribute to uncertainty in measuring the thickness of a pile of pellets?

There are several factors that can contribute to uncertainty in measuring the thickness of a pile of pellets, including the precision of the measuring instrument, the consistency of the pellets in shape and size, and any external factors that may affect the measurement, such as air currents or uneven surfaces.

4. How can uncertainty in measurements be reduced?

Uncertainty in measurements can be reduced by using more precise measuring instruments, taking multiple measurements and calculating the average, and minimizing external factors that may affect the measurement. Additionally, following proper measurement techniques and calibrating instruments regularly can also help reduce uncertainty.

5. Why is it important to consider uncertainty in measurements of the thickness of a pile of pellets?

Considering uncertainty in measurements is important because it provides a more accurate representation of the measurement and allows for a better understanding of the potential range of values that the measurement may fall within. It also helps to identify any potential sources of error and improve the overall accuracy of the measurement.

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