Understanding Curves: f(x) = sin(x), g(x) = cos(x)

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In summary, the conversation is about understanding the function f(x) = sin(x) and the problem of finding f(x) - g(x) by using A(cos(x-x0)). The values of A, cos(x0), and sin(x0) are determined to be 1, 1, and -1 respectively. The value of x0 is found to be -0.79 by using the equation tan wx0 = 1/(-1). The conversation ends with the person admitting to being confused and requesting clarification about the concept of x0 being the 'top' of the curve and how to find it.
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Not sure if it's called "curves" in English, but what I am referring to is graphs that repeat over a given time.
ie
f(x) = sin(x)

The problem I am having is understanding the following:
Given:
f(x) = sin(x)
g(x) = cos(x)

Find f(x) - g(x) by A(cos(x - x0)).
Which gives:
A(cos(x - x0)) = A(cos(x0))cos(x) + A(sin(x0))sin(x)
A(cos(x0)) = 1
A(sin(x0)) = -1

thus:
A = sqrt(1^2 + (-1)^2) = 1

Finding x0:
tan wx0 = 1/(-1)
1*x0 = arctan(-1)
x0 = -0.79

Here I'm pretty much lost. I've probably done some mistakes along the way as well :(
What is -0.79? x0 is supposed to be the 'top' of the curve right?
ie to find every top, you would have something like:
x0 +/- |n|*2PI

Where n is a whole number(1..inf) and 2PI would be the period of each "curve".

Could someone explain this to me, I'm trying to learn this by just reading a book and I'm having a hard time.
 
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thus:
A = sqrt(1^2 + (-1)^2) = 1
Brainfart.
sqrt(2) is sqrt(2), not 1 :rolleyes:
 
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First of all, yes, the term "curves" is commonly used in English to refer to graphs that repeat over a given time. In mathematics, these are also known as periodic functions.

Now, let's break down the problem step by step. We are given two functions, f(x) = sin(x) and g(x) = cos(x), and we are asked to find the difference between them, which is denoted by f(x) - g(x). To do this, we need to use the given formula A(cos(x - x0)) and solve for A and x0.

First, let's focus on finding A. We are given that A(cos(x0)) = 1 and A(sin(x0)) = -1. These equations come from the fact that cos(x - x0) = cos(x0)cos(x) + sin(x0)sin(x), which is a trigonometric identity. By substituting the given values of A(cos(x0)) and A(sin(x0)), we can solve for A.

A(cos(x0)) = 1
1 = cos(x0)
x0 = cos^-1(1)
x0 = 0

Similarly, we can solve for x0 in the second equation.

A(sin(x0)) = -1
-1 = sin(x0)
x0 = sin^-1(-1)
x0 = -π/2

However, we need to find the value of x0 that satisfies both equations, which is why we set them equal to each other.

x0 = cos^-1(1) = sin^-1(-1)
x0 = 0 = -π/2

Since these two values are not equal, we can conclude that there is no value of x0 that satisfies both equations simultaneously. Therefore, there is no single value of x0 that represents the "top" of the curve.

Instead, we can think of x0 as a range of values that represent the "tops" of the curve. As you mentioned, x0 can be written as x0 +/- n*2π, where n is a whole number. This is because the curve repeats itself every 2π units.

For example, if we take x0 = 0, we get the "top" of the curve at x = 0. But if we take x0 = 2π, we get the "top" of the curve at x
 

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What is the difference between f(x) = sin(x) and g(x) = cos(x)?

The main difference between these two curves is that the sine curve (f(x)) starts at the origin (0,0) and increases in a positive direction, while the cosine curve (g(x)) starts at the maximum value of 1 and decreases in a negative direction. This is due to the fact that the sine function represents the y-coordinate of a point on the unit circle, while the cosine function represents the x-coordinate.

What is the domain and range of these curves?

The domain of both f(x) = sin(x) and g(x) = cos(x) is all real numbers. This means that the input values (x) can be any real number. The range of the sine function is between -1 and 1, while the range of the cosine function is also between -1 and 1.

How do the graphs of f(x) = sin(x) and g(x) = cos(x) change with different values of x?

The graphs of both sine and cosine functions are periodic, meaning they repeat themselves over and over again. As the value of x increases, the curves will continue to oscillate between their minimum and maximum values. The difference between the two curves is that the sine curve starts at 0 and increases while the cosine curve starts at its maximum value and decreases.

What are the key points on these curves?

Some key points to note on these curves are the x-intercepts, which occur at every multiple of π for both f(x) = sin(x) and g(x) = cos(x). The maximum and minimum values of the sine curve are 1 and -1, respectively, while the maximum and minimum values of the cosine curve are also 1 and -1, respectively.

How are these curves used in real life?

The sine and cosine curves are used in various fields such as mathematics, physics, engineering, and music. They can be used to model periodic phenomena such as sound waves, light waves, and other natural phenomena. They are also essential in understanding circular motion and harmonic motion in physics. In music, these curves are used to represent sound waves and are crucial in understanding the concepts of frequency and wavelength.

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