Using incorrect models to infer correct ones.

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In summary, incorrect models can still provide some insight and value in analysis, even though they may not be the best fit. This is because they may still be somewhat in the right direction and provide useful approximations or simplifications. This is similar to a Taylor series expansion, where the more terms you use, the more accurate the approximation becomes. Ultimately, all models are wrong, but some are still useful in providing insight and understanding in data analysis.
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I see this happening a lot and have done this in my analysis as well. But it doesn't seem too intuitive to me as to why it works.

So if we fit a linear regression, and the residual vs fitted plots are curved, we tweak the input variables to get a random residual vs fitted plot. But we have used the wrong model to infer this to begin with.

For count data, if we use poisson regression and realize that there is over dispersion, we would then switch over to the negative binomial model. Here we have also used the wrong model to infer this.

I guess the reason why the incorrect models still give some insight even though they are not the best models is because they are somewhat in the right direction? Is that the case? Like even if a poisson model isn't fully appropriate, it is still somewhat of a decent approximation compared to other models, so we can at least say that there is some value in the results. All models are wrong, but some are useful.
 
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Approximations or simplifications. If they tended to work in the sample data, we hope they will continue to work for new data points. If they worked very well, we hope that will continue.
 
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FallenApple said:
All models are wrong, but some are useful.
That is along the lines of my thinking. It is similar to a Taylor series expansion, the more detail you need the more terms you use. No expansion is “right”, but it can be useful anyway.
 

1. Why is using incorrect models to infer correct ones important in science?

Using incorrect models to infer correct ones is important in science because it allows scientists to gain a deeper understanding of complex systems and phenomena. It also helps to identify flaws in existing models and can lead to the development of more accurate models.

2. How can using incorrect models lead to the development of more accurate ones?

Using incorrect models can highlight areas where the model fails to accurately represent reality. This can then lead to the identification of new variables or relationships that need to be included in the model, resulting in a more accurate representation of the system or phenomenon.

3. What are some potential risks of using incorrect models to infer correct ones?

One potential risk is that incorrect models may lead to incorrect conclusions and interpretations of data. This can result in wasted time and resources pursuing false hypotheses. Additionally, incorrect models may overlook important variables or relationships, leading to incomplete or inaccurate understanding of the system.

4. How do scientists ensure that the correct conclusions are drawn when using incorrect models?

Scientists must carefully evaluate the limitations and assumptions of the incorrect model and use multiple lines of evidence to support their conclusions. This can include validating the findings with other models or experimental data, as well as conducting sensitivity analyses to determine the impact of the incorrect model on the conclusions.

5. Can using incorrect models to infer correct ones be applied to all scientific fields?

Yes, the concept of using incorrect models to infer correct ones can be applied to all scientific fields. It is a fundamental approach in the scientific method and is used in fields such as physics, biology, and economics. However, the specific methods and techniques may vary depending on the field and the complexity of the system being studied.

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