Velocity of Bosons: Massless Particles & Electromagnetic Force

In summary: Gluons are charged and carry color charge. They are complicated because they are charged and massless.
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What is the speed of a gluon? Why?
I get it that nothing can travel faster than the speed of light in a vacuum, and that only massless particles can move that fast. Must move that fast. A photon, the massless boson that carries the electromagnetic force, moves as c, which is given by the inverse root of the electric permability of free space times the permitivity. Both of these are properties of space involving interactions driven by electric charge.

What compels the velocity of the gluons, the massless boson of the strong force? Why should it's speed be determined by properties of electric charge? By analogy, I'd expect its speed would be determined by constants associated with color charge. Shouldn't it work that way? If there are such constants, what are they? (I'm in way over my head here, but what the hell. Terms to research) I'd be amazed if things just happened to work out that this also yields c. I guess it would have to, but why? That would be interesting.
 
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Bob3141592 said:
Summary:: What is the speed of a gluon? Why?

A photon, the massless boson that carries the electromagnetic force, moves as c, which is given by the inverse root of the electric permability of free space times the permitivity. Both of these are properties of space involving interactions driven by electric charge.
This is incorrect. The property that the electromagnetic gauge coupling governs is the fine structure constant, not the speed of light. The speed of light is in essence nothing more than a conversion factor between units of space and time.
 
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Summary:: What is the speed of a gluon? Why?

I get it that nothing can travel faster than the speed of light in a vacuum, and that only massless particles can move that fast. Must move that fast. A photon, the massless boson that carries the electromagnetic force, moves as c, which is given by the inverse root of the electric permability of free space times the permitivity. Both of these are properties of space involving interactions driven by electric charge.

What compels the velocity of the gluons, the massless boson of the strong force? Why should it's speed be determined by properties of electric charge? By analogy, I'd expect its speed would be determined by constants associated with color charge. Shouldn't it work that way? If there are such constants, what are they? (I'm in way over my head here, but what the hell. Terms to research) I'd be amazed if things just happened to work out that this also yields c. I guess it would have to, but why? That would be interesting.

In general, you could look at this the other way round. Assume that ##c## is the universal constant and that the relationship between ##\epsilon_0## and ##\mu_0## is determined by ##c##.

And, in fact, one way to develop SR (Special Relativity) is simply to assume basic symmetry and homogeneity of time and space and see what options there are that meet these criteria. It turns out there are only two: one is the Newtonian/Gallilean case, where there is no maximum speed; and the other is SR, where there is a universal constant ##c##, which appears in coordinate transformations, velocity addition and as a maximum speed.

It turns out, of course, that our universe has the second option, hence all massless particles must move at ##c##. For EM, this implies the necessary relationship between ##\epsilon_0## and ##\mu_0##.
 
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One should, however, note that ##\epsilon_0## and ##\mu_0## are just arbitrary conversion constants, which are introduced into physics just for practical convenience within the international system of units. The reason is that you get convenient numbers for electrical engineering. From a theoretical-physics point of view this complicates the description of electromagnetic phenomena very much, and that's why in high-energy physics one uses more convenient units, the socalled Heaviside-Lorentz units, which are rationalized Gaussian units. The only fundamental constant entering the equations of electromagnetism is then the speed of light in vacuum, ##c##, which however in view of special relativity is also only a conversion constant between measurements of time (in seconds) and length (in meters), and that's in fact how it is defined in the SI. This is also quite inconvenient for theoretical purposes and that's why one also introduces units, where ##c=1##. Since HEP physics also deals with quantum phenomena one also sets ##\hbar=1## since also ##\hbar## is nothing than a conversion constant between the arbitrary man-made SI units and natural units.

Now it's an empirical fact that photons are massless, and since we can observe free photons, indeed one can measure the speed of light as the propagation speed of electromagnetic waves in a vacuum.

The case of gluons is much more subtle. While photons are uncharged, the gluons carry color charge, i.e., the non-Abelian charge of the strong interaction. There are 8 differently charged gluons (quarks come in three color charges, usually dubbed "red, green, blue" which is why the entire theory of strong interactions is called quantum chromodynamics, QCD). Since we can treat quantum field theories as QED and QCD analytically only in a perturbative way, the case of QCD is very difficult: In contradistinction to QED with its uncharged gauge field (the electromagnetic field with the asymptotic free single-particle excitations called photons) the gauge field of QCD is charged, and as the perturbative analysis shows, this causes the theory to be asymptotically free. In QFT we always have to renormalize, and this renormalization procedure leads to the introduction of a momentum scale, and the coupling constants become dependent on this scale. In QCD this "running coupling" becomes small at large momentum scales, i.e., only when quarks and gluons scatter with a large momentum transfer you can use perturbation theory to evaluate cross sections.

However, this is problematic either since there's also "confinement", which cannot be understood within the realm of perturbation theory. Perturbation theory only gives a glimpse: At low momentum scales the coupling becomes large, and perturbation theory breaks down. Phenomenologically we have never seen free quarks and gluons, but the observable "asymptotic free degrees of freedom" involving the strong interaction are hadrons, i.e., bound states of quarks and gluons which all carry net-color charge of 0. The standard hadrons are the mesons (effectively describable by as bound states of a quark and an antiquark) and baryons (effectively describable as bound states of three quarks) and their antiparticles. This is known as confinement: The quarks and gluons do not occur as asymptotic free particles and thus you cannot observe the speed of gluons.

One way to see that QCD also describes this confinement correctly is to use lattice-gauge theory, which evaluates certain quantities of QCD with computers on a discrete space-time lattice. Among other things what lattice QCD can calculate well is the mass spectrum of hadrons, and this is done with quite some accuracy, leading to the correct masses of the observed hadrons (+ the prediction of some more not yet observed hadrons).
 
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Wow! Excellent answers, just the kinds of things I was looking for! I have to look into the fine structure constant and think about it in that way. Lots of other points made in the replies I have to learn more about. It's early and I'm dashing off to work, but I'll ask more questions tomorrow. Thanks so much.
 
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PeroK said:
In general, you could look at this the other way round.
I would replace the c in this sentence by sh. :oldeyes:

In relation to this, it is also useful to note that, in the new definition of SI units, the fact that ##\mu_0## and ##\epsilon_0## relate to the fine structure constant is made more apparent as this is what directly leads to the uncertainties in their values (previously, ##\mu_0## was defined to be a particular value, which also implied that there was no uncertainty in ##\epsilon_0## even though it relates to the fine structure constant).
 
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In the previous SI, ##\mu_0## was defined exactly as well as ##c##, and thus since necessarily ##\mu_0 \epsilon_0=1/c^2## also ##\epsilon_0## was defined exactly.

This has changed in 2019. Now the really fundamental constants (which are all conversion factors between units anyway) and ##\nu_{\text{Cs}}## as the last non-fundamental constant left in the SI are exactly defined. The advantage is that now the Ampere is exact but ##\mu_0## has the same error as the best measured value of the fine structure constant implies which is of the order ##10^{-10}## relative error. For details see

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019_redefinition_of_the_SI_base_units#Ampere
https://www.bipm.org/utils/en/pdf/si-mep/SI-App2-ampere.pdf
 
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1. What are bosons?

Bosons are a type of elementary particle that carry force and energy. They include particles like photons, gluons, and W and Z bosons.

2. What is the difference between massless and massive bosons?

Massless bosons, such as photons, have no rest mass and travel at the speed of light. Massive bosons, like W and Z bosons, have rest mass and travel at speeds slower than light.

3. How does the velocity of bosons relate to the electromagnetic force?

The velocity of bosons, specifically photons, is directly related to the strength of the electromagnetic force. Photons are the force carriers for the electromagnetic force, and their speed determines the strength of the force.

4. Can bosons have different velocities?

Yes, bosons can have different velocities depending on their energy and interactions with other particles. For example, photons can have different velocities when traveling through different mediums.

5. How is the velocity of bosons measured?

The velocity of bosons can be measured using various techniques, such as particle accelerators and detectors. The speed of light is also used as a reference point for measuring the velocity of bosons.

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