Verifying Speed of Light Varies by Direction

In summary, the conversation discusses the possibility of determining if the speed of light varies depending on direction by using a single clock and introducing a medium to slow the beam on the return trip. Three cases, T1, T2, and T3, are considered, with calculations showing that T3 is less than T1 which is less than T2 when the medium is introduced. However, there is a question about how to verify that the medium slows light by the same fraction in all directions. The conversation also mentions that this topic is not a one-way measurement and is not consistent with the professional scientific literature.
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A method for measuring the one way speed of light.
Note, it possible to determine if the speed of light varies depending on direction, with the use of a single clock. Simply send a beam and reflect it back, but on the return trip introduce a medium to slow the beam.

Three cases, T1, T2, T3 are total travel times.

T1: assume light is the same speed in both directions (prior to introducing medium).
T2: assume light is faster on the outbound trip (prior to introducing medium).
T3: assume light is faster on the inbound trip (prior to introducing medium).

Let T1 = T2 = T3 without the medium.

Calculations show that with the medium, it is necessarily the case that T3 < T1 < T2

Sample below with c = 300,000 km/s and distance 1 km for convenience.

First without the medium

T1: Outbound 300,000 km/s, 1 km then inbound 300,000 km/s, 1km. T1 = 1/150,000 seconds.

T2: Outbound 600,000 km/s, 1 km then inbound 200,000 km/s, 1 km. T2 = 1/150,000 seconds.

T3: Outbound 200,000 km/s, 1 km then inbound 600,000 km/s, 1 km. T3 = 1/150000 seconds.

T1 = T2 = T3 ... impossible to verify which case exists.

Second with the medium (inbound velocity slowed by 50%)

T1: Outbound 300,000 km/s, 1 km then inbound 150,000 km/s, 1km. T1 = .00001 seconds.

T2: Outbound 600,000 km/s, 1 km then inbound 100,000 km/s, 1 km. T2 = .000017 seconds.

T3: Outbound 200,000 km/s, 1 km then inbound 300,000 km/s, 1 km. T3 = .0000083 seconds.

T3 < T1 < T2 ... possible to verify which case exists.
 
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And how, pray tell, do you verify that your medium slows the light by 50% irrespective of direction?
 
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50% is for example only. Use any medium, guaranteed to slow light.
We're slowing the light only in one direction in each case (inbound).
 
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That doesn't plug the hole in your argument. How do you verify that your medium slows light by the same fraction irrespective of direction.
 
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In all cases the light is traveling through the medium in the same (inbound) direction.
 
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I'm wasting my time, aren't I. There is aboslutely nothing that will convince you that everyone else is right and you are wrong, is there.

Your medium has to slow light that is traveling in the 300,000 km/s diresction to 150,000 km/s, light that is traveling in the 200,000 km/s direction to 100,000 km/s , light that is traveling in the 600,000 km/s direction to 300,000 km/s, etc. How do you prove this?
 
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This isn’t a one way measurement.

This isn’t a QM question.

This isn’t correctly analyzed (as already pointed out)

This isn’t consistent with the professional scientific literature

This is closed
 
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1. What is the "Verifying Speed of Light Varies by Direction" theory?

The "Verifying Speed of Light Varies by Direction" theory proposes that the speed of light is not constant in all directions, but rather varies depending on the direction in which it is measured.

2. How was this theory discovered?

This theory was first proposed by Albert Einstein in his theory of special relativity, which was published in 1905.

3. What evidence supports this theory?

One piece of evidence that supports this theory is the Sagnac effect, which is the observed difference in the speed of light in clockwise and counterclockwise directions in a rotating interferometer. Another piece of evidence is the anisotropy of the speed of light, which has been observed in experiments using different types of equipment and techniques.

4. How does this theory impact our understanding of the universe?

If this theory is proven to be true, it would challenge our current understanding of the laws of physics and the nature of space and time. It could also have implications for our understanding of the fundamental constants of the universe.

5. What further research is needed to confirm or refute this theory?

Further experiments and observations are needed to confirm or refute this theory. This could include more precise measurements of the speed of light in different directions, as well as studies of the effects of gravity and other factors on the speed of light. Additionally, advancements in technology may provide new ways to test this theory in the future.

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