Weird pattern for a laser beam spot

In summary, the conversation discusses the issue of interference fringes appearing on top of the expected gaussian profile of a new laser beam. The person is using two wedges to guide the beam into the camera, but the fringes still appear. It is suggested that the interference could be caused by the reflection and refraction of the beam on the surfaces of the wedges. However, it is also mentioned that the camera's sensor behind a glass window could be causing the interference. To test this, the suggestion is to rotate the camera while keeping the beam on screen.
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Hello! I am trying to measure the gaussian profile of a laser beam, which is supposed to be T00. The profile shown in the specifications looks very Gaussian, and the laser is brand new. I am using this camera and I am using 2 of these wedges to guide the laser beam into the camera (mainly to reduce the power). However what I am getting is the figure below. The central, bright spot looks basically like what I expect, but on top of that I see some sort of interference fringes. I don't think this is from the laser (I hope not!) as these would be a lot higher order modes than the expected T00, but I am not sure what they can be from. I made sure (as much as I could) that the light hits the camera perpendicularly. Does anyone have any idea what can cause this? Thank you!

Edit: I attached below a picture of my setup.

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Are you reflecting from the wedges? I don't understand your setup.
 
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hutchphd said:
Are you reflecting from the wedges? I don't understand your setup.
Yes, I am reflecting from them. The reflection from the first wedge goes into the second wedge. And the refection from the second wedge into the camera.
 
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There are then four different surfaces that both reflect and refract the beam. There must be several distinct good paths to follow How far apart are the wedges (relative to their diameter) . If you double that distance I would expect the spacing of fringes to change and shift.
 
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hutchphd said:
There are then four different surfaces that both reflect and refract the beam. There must be several distinct good paths to follow How far apart are the wedges (relative to their diameter) . If you double that distance I would expect the spacing of fringes to change and shift.
Thanks for this. I am not totally sure I see why reflection from the back surface would be important here. The angle of the wedge is 10 degree, so far enough from the wedges (I would say that the distance between the optical elements are about 10 x the wedge diameter) the 2 beams won't overlap at all basically.
 
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@hutchphd The front and back surfaces of the wedges are angled so that you don't see interference between the two reflected beams (front reflected and back reflected).

What are those optics in the lens tube on your camera? Lenses? ND filters? I bet those are what's causing your interference. Non-angled, uncoated optics make etalons that cause the interference you see.

Alternative, a well placed isolator can solve this interference issue.

For the purpose of beam profiling, you can ignore those fringes. Turn the exposure time down on your camera to make sure there isn't more significant weirdness that you can't see above 'cause of the saturation.
 
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Twigg said:
@hutchphd The front and back surfaces of the wedges are angled so that you don't see interference between the two reflected beams (front reflected and back reflected).

What are those optics in the lens tube on your camera? Lenses? ND filters? I bet those are what's causing your interference. Non-angled, uncoated optics make etalons that cause the interference you see.

Alternative, a well placed isolator can solve this interference issue.

For the purpose of beam profiling, you can ignore those fringes. Turn the exposure time down on your camera to make sure there isn't more significant weirdness that you can't see above 'cause of the saturation.
Thanks a lot for your reply! Actually there is nothing in the tube. I added it just to protect from other sources of light, but I see the fringes even if I remove the tube completely. What someone suggested to me (after I made this post) was that the interference might be due to the camera itself. The sensor of the camera seems to be behind a glass window, and that might lead to interference (e.g. from reflections between the camera sensor and that glass). Can this be the reason?
 
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Yes. The interference is from the two surfaces of the glass window itself. It should be easy to tell if it is in the camera or in your set-up.
 
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Yep, sounds like that's it. If you wanted to test it, you'd need to rotate the whole camera while keeping the beam on screen. If its the camera's window, then the fringes will not appear to rotate. If its fringes on the beam itself, then the fringes will appear to rotate. Best of luck!
 
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The camera was my first thought as well. Pull out grandpa's SLR and try film.
 
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1. What causes a weird pattern for a laser beam spot?

There are a few potential causes for a weird pattern in a laser beam spot. One common cause is imperfections in the laser beam itself, such as uneven intensity or polarization. Another possible cause is interference from external factors, such as dust or other particles in the air.

2. Can a weird pattern for a laser beam spot affect the accuracy of experiments?

Yes, a weird pattern in a laser beam spot can definitely affect the accuracy of experiments. If the pattern is caused by imperfections in the laser beam, it can lead to inaccurate readings or measurements. It is important to carefully calibrate and monitor the laser beam to ensure accurate results.

3. How can a weird pattern for a laser beam spot be corrected?

The best way to correct a weird pattern in a laser beam spot is to identify and address the underlying cause. This may involve adjusting the laser beam's settings or cleaning the area around the beam to remove any external factors causing interference. In some cases, it may be necessary to replace the laser or make repairs to fix the issue.

4. Is a weird pattern for a laser beam spot dangerous?

In most cases, a weird pattern in a laser beam spot is not dangerous. However, it is important to exercise caution when working with lasers, as they can be harmful to the eyes and skin. If you notice any unusual changes in the laser beam, it is best to stop using it and seek assistance from a trained professional.

5. Can different types of lasers produce different patterns in their beam spots?

Yes, different types of lasers can produce different patterns in their beam spots. This is because different lasers operate at different wavelengths and have varying levels of intensity and polarization. It is important to understand the capabilities and limitations of the specific laser being used in order to properly interpret the pattern of the beam spot.

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