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phoenixy
This video looks old but I just got the chance to see it. After 8 years of fundamentalism meddling in American politics, it is refreshing to see the divide between church and state will be renewed.
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phoenixy said:
This video looks old but I just got the chance to see it. After 8 years of fundamentalism meddling in American politics, it is refreshing to see the divide between church and state will be renewed.
kasse said:I sometimes wonder if Obama is really a Christian, or if he is just pretending to even stand a chance in the election?
Ivan Seeking said:I often wonder if anyone really wonders this, or if it is just way to reconcile the fact that this is a primarily a country populated by people of faith.
kasse said:He's obviously extremely intelligent. Intelligent people tend to believe in things for which there is evidence. I think he is a non-believer.
kasse said:I sometimes wonder if Obama is really a Christian, or if he is just pretending to even stand a chance in the election?
Ah, the old "If you don't believe what I do, you must not be thinking clearly" argument?kasse said:I agree with Lightbulb. Obama is obviously extremely intelligent. Intelligent people tend to believe in things for which there is evidence. I think he is a non-believer.
kasse said:I didn't say immune, I said they tend to. There's a reason why most American scientists are nonbelievers, while 90% of the general population are religious. The reason is that scientists tend to be rational, and therefore care about evidence
kasse said:I sometimes wonder if Obama is really a Christian, or if he is just pretending to even stand a chance in the election?
LightbulbSun said:http://link.brightcove.com/services/link/bcpid1185304443/bctid416343938.
Great leaders like Washington, Franklin, Jefferson, Adams, and Madison, or great leaders like Huckabee, Romney, Brownback, Buchanan and Jindal?Ivan Seeking said:I often wonder if anyone really wonders this, or if it is just way to reconcile the fact that this is a primarily a country populated by people of faith - including most of our greatest leaders.
Somehow, you forgot Ms. Palin in that list, Gokul..Gokul43201 said:Great leaders like Washington, Franklin, Jefferson, Adams, and Madison, or great leaders like Huckabee, Romney, Brownback, Buchanan and Jindal?
kasse said:I sometimes wonder if Obama is really a Christian, or if he is just pretending to even stand a chance in the election?
wildman said:State Christians like James Dobson are in my opinion very destructive to the Christian faith. Mr. Obama understands this. To say that he is not a Christian because he wants to keep state and church separate is to twist the words of the Bible. Both Paul and Jesus were very clear on separation of church and state. Jesus never concerned himself with the political society and when the Jewish leaders tried to trick him into concerning himself, he answered: "Render to Caesar the things that are Caesar and to God the things that are God's".
The church in Europe is almost dead due to the twisting together of church and state. Combining the two is destructive to both.
WarPhalange said:Hopefully Obama can at least bring back separation of Church and State. He won't dare to look like he isn't 100% Christian, since there are already those who think he's a Muslim (lots of people can't tell the difference. Not Christian = devil) or the Anti-Christ incarnate. It will take a different president to finally make it okay to have whatever religious views you want, though.
CaptainQuasar said:the most rational individuals I've had the pleasure to know, have been religious, some of them priests and ministers.[/RIGHT]
I know. I was being serious when I wrote that. Isn't it insane?Greg Bernhardt said:I was in a car with two friends yesterday who were seriously arguing whether Obama is the anti-christ. My mind was ready to explode.
I was in a car with two friends yesterday who were seriously arguing whether Obama is the anti-christ. My mind was ready to explode.
Helios said:If Obama had lost the election, then that would be proof that he's not the anti-christ. Since he won, the verdict is still out. The true anti-christ can win any election with his evil magic powers.
kasse said:I sometimes wonder if Obama is really a Christian, or if he is just pretending to even stand a chance in the election?
montoyas7940 said:Does it really matter? If he is committed to doing a good job, is ethical and has integrity we are easily as well off as we ever were.
I always prefer, however, that the congress and the presidency be split. It seems less damage is done that way.
When's the last time you saw a half-black president-elect?john16O said:whens the last time you saw 10s of thousands of people like that only hours after he has been name president elect?
john16O said:Well, I'm not going to do that. But if you want your money, I would be more than willing to pay up. On friday nights my friends and I usually go to fed hill. It would not be a hassle...
Obama has stated that he believes in the importance of religious freedom and tolerance. He has also emphasized the separation of church and state in government affairs.
Obama identifies as a Christian and has been a member of the United Church of Christ for many years.
Obama has stated that his religious beliefs have influenced his values and principles, but he also believes in the importance of respecting the beliefs of others and making decisions based on the common good.
Obama has made controversial statements about religion in the past, such as his comments about small town Americans clinging to religion and guns. However, he has also apologized for these remarks and stated that they were taken out of context.
During his presidency, Obama made efforts to promote religious diversity and tolerance. He hosted an annual White House Iftar dinner to celebrate Ramadan and also visited various religious institutions to show support for different faiths.