What is the Correct Form of the Natural Logarithm Law for (ln(x))^(1/x)?

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The discussion centers on the validity of the equation (ln(x))^(1/x) = ln(x^(1/x)), which is only true when x equals 1. For other values, such as x = 2, the two sides yield different results, indicating the equation does not hold in general. The limit of (ln(x))^(1/x) as x approaches infinity is discussed, with participants noting that it approaches one, but there is confusion about applying L'Hospital's Rule due to the form of the expression. The original equation was misinterpreted, leading to further clarification on its correct formulation. Ultimately, the conversation highlights the complexities of logarithmic expressions and limits in calculus.
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How does
(ln(x))^(1/x)=ln(x^(1/x))?

A friend told me this was a true statement but could'nt prove it. If that isn't true, then how would you find the lim x->0 of (ln(x))^(1/x) using L'Hospital's Rule?
 
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Towk667 said:
How does
(ln(x))^(1/x)=ln(x^(1/x))?

It doesn't, in general. It does if x = 1.
 
For example, if x= 2, ln(2)= 0.69315, approximately so (ln(2))^{1/2}= 0.83255. But 2^{1/2}= 1.41421 so ln(2^{1/2})= 0.34657. Not at all the same.
 
For example, if x= 2, then ln(2)= 0.69315, approximately, and (ln(2))^{1/2}= 0.83255.<br /> <br /> But 2^{1/2}= 1.41421 and so ln(2^{1/2})= 0.34657. Not at all the same.&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; As for the entire problem of finding the limit, as x goes to 0, of (ln(x))^{1/x}, I see a serious difficulty: as soon as x&amp;lt; 1, ln(x)&amp;lt; 0 and fractional powers of negative numbers are not defined.
 
That's what I thought, but my friend insisted that it was true. I've been rattling my brain for about 2 days on that one, so I decided to ask here. So can you help me with limit I mentioned in my first post? I typed it wrong in the first post its the limit as x approaches infinity not zero. I can see from graphing it that it's going to come out to one, but I don't know how to use L'Hopistal's Rule to solve for it. If I try to evaluate it without changing anything I get something like \infty<sup>0</sup> which would be one if it isn't indeterminant, I don't remember if it is or isn't. Anyways, I'm supposed to use L'Hosp. Rule and I don't know how to write the limit as a fraction to use L'Hopistal's Rule though.
 
General formula: ln(ab)=(b)ln(a)
For your formula: ln(x1/x)=(1/x)ln(x)

As for the L'Hopital rule question, you don't need it, since the expression goes to (-∞), which is ∞, with an ambiguous sign.
 
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mathman said:
General formula: ln(ab)=(b)ln(a)
For your formula: ln(x1/x)=(1/x)ln(x)

As for the L'Hopital rule question, you don't need it, since the expression goes to (-∞), which is ∞, with an ambiguous sign.

The original equation is [ln(x)]^(1/x) not ln(x^(1/x)).
 
Towk667 said:
The original equation is [ln(x)]^(1/x) not ln(x^(1/x)).

...and the original equation was incorrect, so mathman gave something correct.
 

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