What is the height of the tennis ball after bouncing off a basketball?

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In summary, the height of the tennis ball after bouncing off a basketball depends on factors such as the initial height, elasticity of the balls, and the angle and force of the collision. The elasticity of the balls affects the height of the tennis ball, and a steeper angle and more force will result in a higher bounce. The tennis ball does not reach the same height as the initial drop due to energy loss during the collision. The height of the tennis ball after bouncing is not a constant value and will decrease with each bounce until it comes to a stop.
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Here is this week's POTW:

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(N.B. I will give credit for this problem to where it's due, but only after next week.)

A tennis ball with (small) mass $m_2$ sits atop a basketball with (large) mass $m_1$. The bottom of the basketball is a height $h$ above the ground, and the bottom of the tennis ball is a height $h+d$ above the ground. The balls are dropped. To what height does the tennis ball bounce? Note: Work in the approximation where $m_1$ is much larger than $m_2$, and assume that the balls bounce elastically.

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No one answered this week's POTW, which is due to David Morin from Harvard. His solution follows:

For simplicity, assume that the balls are separated by a very small distance, so that the relevant bounces happen a short time apart. This assumption isn't necessary, but it makes for a slightly cleaner solution.

Just before the basketball hits the ground, both balls are moving downward with speed (using $mv^2/2=mgh$)
\begin{equation}\label{Eq:First}
v=\sqrt{2gh}
\end{equation}
Just after the basketball hits the ground, it moves upward with speed $v$, while the tennis ball still moves downward with speed $v$. The relative speed is therefore $2v$. After the balls bounce off each other, the relative speed is still $2v$. (This is clear if you look at things in the frame of the basketball, which is essentially a brick wall.1) Since the upward speed of the basketball essentially stays equal to $v$, the upward speed of the tennis ball is $2v+v=3v$. By conservation of energy, it will therefore rise to a height of $H=d+(3v)^2/(2g)$. But $v^2=2gh$, so we have
\begin{equation}\label{Eq:Second}
H=d+9h.
\end{equation}

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1 It turns out that the relative speed is the same before and after any elastic collision, independent of what the masses are. This is easily seen by working in the center-of-mass frame, where the masses simply reverse their velocities.
 

1. What is the height of the tennis ball after bouncing off a basketball?

The height of the tennis ball after bouncing off a basketball depends on various factors such as the initial height from which it was dropped, the elasticity of the tennis ball and the basketball, and the angle and force at which the tennis ball hits the basketball. In general, the tennis ball will not reach the same height as the initial drop, but it will bounce to a lower height due to energy loss during the collision.

2. How does the elasticity of the tennis ball and basketball affect the height of the tennis ball after bouncing?

The elasticity of the tennis ball and basketball play a crucial role in determining the height of the tennis ball after bouncing off a basketball. If both balls have high elasticity, the tennis ball will bounce to a higher height. On the other hand, if the balls have low elasticity, the tennis ball will not bounce as high and may even stop bouncing after a few bounces.

3. Does the angle and force at which the tennis ball hits the basketball affect its bounce height?

Yes, the angle and force at which the tennis ball hits the basketball will affect its bounce height. For example, if the tennis ball hits the basketball at a steeper angle and with more force, it will bounce to a higher height compared to when it hits the basketball at a shallow angle and with less force.

4. Why does the tennis ball not reach the same height after bouncing off the basketball?

The tennis ball does not reach the same height after bouncing off the basketball due to energy loss during the collision. Some of the kinetic energy of the tennis ball is transferred to the basketball, causing the tennis ball to lose energy and not bounce to the same height as the initial drop.

5. Is the height of the tennis ball after bouncing off a basketball a constant value?

No, the height of the tennis ball after bouncing off a basketball is not a constant value. It will vary depending on the factors mentioned above, and it will also decrease with each subsequent bounce due to energy loss. Eventually, the tennis ball will come to a stop as all of its energy is dissipated.

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