What is the macroscopic cross section for natural uranium to thermal neutrons?

In summary, the conversation revolved around the value of ν∑f for natural uranium in the context of neutron energy and flux. It was mentioned that the value of ∑f depends on the atomic density and the form of uranium. The value of ν also depends on neutron energy, with a thermal spectrum having a dependence on U-235. It was also noted that fast neutrons have a peak distribution around 1 MeV and the energy distribution falls off rapidly up to 10 MeV. To go higher, one needs 20+ MeV protons and spallation reactions. The original poster clarified that they were looking for the macroscopic cross section for thermal neutrons and were able to find a value for UO
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Kirk Truax
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Hey all,

Does anyone happen to know the value of ν∑f for natural uranium? Here ν is the average number of neutron released from fission and ∑f is the macroscopic fission cross section of uranium.

Kirk
 
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I'll wager there's a CANDU reactor engineer aboard who knows.
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Kirk Truax said:
Hey all,

Does anyone happen to know the value of ν∑f for natural uranium? Here ν is the average number of neutron released from fission and ∑f is the macroscopic fission cross section of uranium.

Kirk
Developing a value for ∑f depends on the atomic density, which depends on the form, e.g., elemental, alloy or ceramic. What form is one considering? The value of ν depends on neutron energy, and in a thermal spectrum, it will depend on U-235.
 
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Astronuc said:
The value of ν depends on neutron energy,

Natural U being mostly this ,,
https://t2.lanl.gov/nis/data/endf/endfv-pdf/u238.pdf
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jim hardy said:
Yeah, but that's for fast neutrons. Fast neutrons from fission have a peak distribution around 1 MeV and the energy distribution falls off rapidly up to 10 MeV. With d+t fusion, one gets up to 14.1 MeV neutrons. To go higher, one pretty much needs 20+ MeV protons and spallation reactions.

The OP did mention whether he flux was thermal, epithermal or fast.
 
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Astronuc said:
The OP didn't mention whether he flux was thermal, epithermal or fast.

Fixed it for you

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Astronuc said:
Yeah, but that's for fast neutrons. Fast neutrons from fission have a peak distribution around 1 MeV and the energy distribution falls off rapidly up to 10 MeV. With d+t fusion, one gets up to 14.1 MeV neutrons. To go higher, one pretty much needs 20+ MeV protons and spallation reactions.

The OP did mention whether he flux was thermal, epithermal or fast.
Hey guys,

You were right, I definitely did leave out that vital bit of information. I was simply looking for the macroscopic cross section for thermal neutrons. I was modeling a sub-critical pile with a large amount of graphite moderation. Turns out I was able to find a ν∑f for UO2 to thermal neutrons to be about 0.2274 cm^-1. This was from the good ole D&H tables.

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What is neutron fission cross section?

Neutron fission cross section is a measure of the likelihood that a neutron will cause a nucleus to fission, or split into two or more smaller nuclei. It is an important quantity in nuclear physics and is used to calculate the rate of nuclear reactions.

How is neutron fission cross section measured?

Neutron fission cross section is typically measured using a particle accelerator or a reactor. In these experiments, a beam of neutrons is directed at a target nucleus, and the number of fission events is recorded. The ratio of fission events to the total number of neutrons in the beam gives the fission cross section.

What factors affect neutron fission cross section?

The neutron fission cross section of a nucleus depends on several factors, including the energy of the neutron, the size and shape of the nucleus, and the presence of other particles, such as protons or neutrons, in the nucleus.

Why is neutron fission cross section important?

Neutron fission cross section is important for understanding and predicting nuclear reactions, such as those that occur in nuclear power plants and nuclear weapons. It also plays a role in the study of nuclear structure and the production of nuclear isotopes.

How does neutron fission cross section relate to nuclear chain reactions?

Neutron fission cross section is a crucial factor in determining whether a nuclear chain reaction can occur. If the fission cross section is above a certain threshold, then a chain reaction can be sustained. This is why nuclear reactors require a critical mass of fuel to maintain a chain reaction.

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