What is the meaning of the famous equation E=mc^2?

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In summary: It's worth noting that if the photons have a momentum that differs from zero (e.g. because they've been absorbed or scattered), then their contribution to the total momentum will be nonzero.This ignores contributions from stresses in the walls of the box, but I expect we can consider them to be... negligibly small. It's worth noting that if the photons have a momentum that differs from zero (e.g. because they've been absorbed or scattered), then their contribution to the total momentum will be nonzero.The photons in the box have zero momentum, so their contribution to the total momentum is zero.
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Can someone explain this equation to me? Does this mean that energy has mass in the sense that energy will create gravity? For instance, if I have a massless ball and I somehow place (3*10^8)^2 Joules or c^2 joules of electromagnetic energy inside the ball, would that ball now have a mass of 1 kg (simple algebra) and thus have a gravitational pull? Even though the ball is merely a boundary in a sense and contains no mass itself?
 
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PhDnotForMe said:
E=mc^2
Can someone explain this equation to me? Does this mean that energy has mass in the sense that energy will create gravity? For instance, if I have a massless ball and I somehow place (3*10^8)^2 Joules or c^2 joules of electromagnetic energy inside the ball, would that ball now have a mass of 1 kg (simple algebra) and thus have a gravitational pull? Even though the ball is merely a boundary in a sense and contains no mass itself?
We placed some stuff into the ball, and the total mass of the ball and its contents is now 1 kg. Because m=E/c^2.

We can investigate the distribution of the mass by using a fishing line and a weight.

We would feel a force pulling the weight towards the center of the ball, I mean inside the ball the weight tends to fall towards the center.
 
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PhDnotForMe said:
For instance, if I have a massless ball and I somehow place (3*10^8)^2 Joules or c^2 joules of electromagnetic energy inside the ball, would that ball now have a mass of 1 kg (simple algebra) and thus have a gravitational pull?
You have to consider both the energy and the pressure. See https://arxiv.org/abs/gr-qc/0510041
 
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Level adjusted, so answers up to now may not mirror the new assessment.
 
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PhDnotForMe said:
Even though the ball is merely a boundary in a sense and contains no mass itself?
In general, the mass of a system does not equal the sum of the masses of its components.
 
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Does Potential energy work in this equation, E=mc^2? As in, if I hold a ball 1 meter above the ground, the PE=mgh. Does than mean that I have added mass to the system? Will the mass of the ball become PE/c^+m?
 
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PhDnotForMe said:
Does Potential energy work in this equation, E=mc^2? As in, if I hold a ball 1 meter above the ground, the PE=mgh. Does than mean that I have added mass to the system? Will the mass of the ball become PE/c^+m?

No, the invariant mass does not change when you lift the ball. You need to read the references very carefully and pay attention to the wording.
 
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PhDnotForMe said:
Does than mean that I have added mass to the system? Will the mass of the ball become PE/c^+m?
That depends on what you consider to be “the system”. If the system is just the ball then no. If the system is the ball and the Earth then yes. If the system is the ball the Earth and you then no.
 
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anorlunda said:
No, the invariant mass does not change when you lift the ball. You need to read the references very carefully and pay attention to the wording.
According to what I have read I would say the mass does change. The added potential energy increases the mass thus the gravitational pull due to the ball would increase. Is this correct.
 
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PhDnotForMe said:
According to what I have read I would say the mass does change. The added potential energy increases the mass thus the gravitational pull due to the ball would increase. Is this correct.
No.
Neither the rest mass of the ball nor the Earth changes.

The added potential energy increases the rest mass of the ball+earth system. That is, if you had the ball and the Earth inside of a sealed box and you had some way of adding energy from outside to move them farther apart the added energy would increase the mass inside the box.

Look at #6 above by @jtbell if you haven't already.
 
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Returning to the original question about electromagnetic radiation in a box, first note that for a single particle ##mc^2 = \sqrt {E^2 - (pc)^2}##, where ##p## is the magnitude ##|\vec p|## of the momentum vector ##\vec p##. For a system of particles, ##m_{system}c^2 = \sqrt{E_{total}^2 + (p_{total}c)^2}##, where ##p_{total}## is the magnitude ##|\vec p_{total}|## of the total momentum vector ##\vec p_{total} = \sum {\vec p_i}##. If the box is at rest, the momentum of the box is zero. The photons in the box move in random directions, so their momentum vectors cancel out and ##\vec p_{total} = 0##. Therefore in this case ##m_{system}c^2 = E_{total} = m_{box}c^2 + E_{photons}##.

This ignores contributions from stresses in the walls of the box, but I expect we can consider them to be negligible under the right circumstances. Maybe someone who knows more about this can comment.
 
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PhDnotForMe said:
According to what I have read I would say the mass does change. The added potential energy increases the mass thus the gravitational pull due to the ball would increase. Is this correct.
I think you have some kind of point there. Although other posters seem to disagree.

Newton's law of gravitation has the same form as Coulomb's law.

So I would guess that two massive plates placed close together become more difficult to pull apart when we add energy to the system by pulling the plates apart.(I know that with point masses the force always decreases as we pull the masses apart)

(A simple argument: According to a molecule on a plate every molecule pair located on different plates gains mass as the plates are pulled apart, the sum of forces from all those pairs increases.)
 
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PhDnotForMe said:
According to what I have read I would say the mass does change.
The mass of what? Please define what exactly is “the system”.
 

1. What does the equation E=mc^2 mean?

The equation E=mc^2 is known as the mass-energy equivalence equation and it describes the relationship between mass (m) and energy (E). It states that energy and mass are equivalent and can be converted into each other.

2. Who came up with the equation E=mc^2?

This famous equation was developed by Albert Einstein in his theory of special relativity in 1905. It revolutionized the field of physics and is still considered one of the most important equations in modern science.

3. How is the equation E=mc^2 used in everyday life?

While the equation may seem complex, its implications are seen in everyday life. For example, nuclear power plants use this equation to convert small amounts of mass into a large amount of energy. It is also used in medical imaging technologies like PET scans, which use the equation to convert mass into energy to produce images of the body.

4. What is the significance of the speed of light (c) in the equation E=mc^2?

The speed of light (c) is a fundamental constant in the equation E=mc^2 and is a key component of Einstein's theory of special relativity. It represents the maximum speed at which energy and matter can be converted into each other, and is a crucial factor in understanding the behavior of the universe.

5. Can you explain the meaning of each symbol in the equation E=mc^2?

The symbol E represents energy, m represents mass, and c represents the speed of light. The ^2 signifies that c is squared, meaning it is multiplied by itself. Therefore, the equation shows that mass (m) can be converted into energy (E) by multiplying it by the speed of light squared (c^2).

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